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Old 16-03-2008, 03:29   #1 (permalink)
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Exif data - how to remove

How do you remove exif data from pics to be posted on the internet or on here? I only have arcsoft photostudio as an editing program but I'm not sure if you use an editing program or what.

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Re: Exif data - how to remove

I'm trying to find out how to keep exif data in mine I've followed previous suggestions, but it doesn't seem to work for me

But that doesn't help you Rachel ... To get rid of exif I suggest you just do what I do, as it seems to work lol, which is to "Save for Web" under the File menu.
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Re: Exif data - how to remove

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Why would you want to remove EXIF data? Some of the information that is contained in it is very useful in the event that someone uses one of your pictures online without persmission...
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Re: Exif data - how to remove

Sorry don't wanna hijack the thread so I'll make this quick.


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I'm trying to find out how to keep exif data in mine I've followed previous suggestions, but it doesn't seem to work for me
What software are you using for RAW processing? If it's the Nikon plugin + PS then be aware the plugin unhelpfully strips the EXIF info. You'll need to use ACR with PS to maintain EXIF info. Then the instructions you where given will work.
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Re: Exif data - how to remove

OP, I use Lightroom > CS3.

Graham + others suggested (in another thread) to use File > Save As. At first I couldn't see a jpeg option; discovered this was 'cos I was in 16bit. Changed to 8bit but then there's no info on file size in the dialogue box
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Re: Exif data - how to remove

The dialogue box I'm talking about is not the first one where you select the file type - it is when after selecting jpg, you have a dialogue box where you have a slider to select the amount of compression/quality - the file size is displayed here.
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Re: Exif data - how to remove

although be aware it's a guestimate, which I find tends to underestimate the filesize. I stick to around or below the 250-270kb guess to ensure you stay under the 300kb limit here.
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OP, I use Lightroom > CS3.

Graham + others suggested (in another thread) to use File > Save As. At first I couldn't see a jpeg option; discovered this was 'cos I was in 16bit. Changed to 8bit but then there's no info on file size in the dialogue box
When you export from Lightroom make sure you tick the box to retain all the EXIf data. That's probably your problem.
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Re: Exif data - how to remove

Tried it again just now: Ok so I went that one step further and found the file size option but nowhere to specify the physical size (I normally set the widest edge to 800px)

Steve, the exif is intact when it leaves LR, it's using the "Export for Web" option in CS3 that I lose the exif.
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Tried it again just now: Ok so I went that one step further and found the file size option but nowhere to specify the physical size (I normally set the widest edge to 800px)
you'll need to resize manually b4 attempting to save.

tbh you'd be better creating an action to resize to 800px on the longest side (you'll prolly need 2 actions - one for portrait, one for landscape), convert to 8 bit then execute the save as dialog.

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Steve, the exif is intact when it leaves LR, it's using the "Export for Web" option in CS3 that I lose the exif.
er. I thought you where doing all of this coz you wanted exif info. I'd assumed it was clear that save for web strips the exif (to save space) - hence you started all the save as jpg in another thread.

Maybe I'm getting confused.
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Tried it again just now: Ok so I went that one step further and found the file size option but nowhere to specify the physical size (I normally set the widest edge to 800px)

Steve, the exif is intact when it leaves LR, it's using the "Export for Web" option in CS3 that I lose the exif.
OP is right - you have to resize before doing the 'save as'.
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you'll need to resize manually b4 attempting to save.

tbh you'd be better creating an action to resize to 800px on the longest side (you'll prolly need 2 actions - one for portrait, one for landscape), convert to 8 bit then execute the save as dialog.
Oh I didn't know that! But I don't want to resize my tiff file, I usually leave it intact, sometimes including layers, in case I want to re-work it. Thanks for telling me how to do it though.

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er. I thought you where doing all of this coz you wanted exif info. I'd assumed it was clear that save for web strips the exif (to save space) - hence you started all the save as jpg in another thread.

Maybe I'm getting confused.
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When you export from Lightroom make sure you tick the box to retain all the EXIf data. That's probably your problem.
To which I replied that that isn't my problem, 'cos it's not in LR that I lose the exif data. You're right, I'm trying to find out how to keep exif data, so you're not confused on that issue
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Oh I didn't know that! But I don't want to resize my tiff file, I usually leave it intact, sometimes including layers, in case I want to re-work it. Thanks for telling me how to do it though.
You don't have to touch the tiff file - just resize and 'save as' a jpg into your uploading folder. the original file is intact, full size and still is a tiff
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Oh right ok, I just have to remember not to save the resizing, like if I close the tiff it'll ask me if I want to save it ... I usually say 'yes' to save the changes I've made, but if I resize it + then say 'yes' will the original tiff be resized? See that's what I don't want. So maybe what I'd have to do is save the tiff first, then resize, then do the 'Save As' to jpeg, then undo the resize or close it + say 'no' to save changes? Am I making this more complicated than it needs to be
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Oh right ok, I just have to remember not to save the resizing,
The resized image should be a jpg not a tiff.

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like if I close the tiff it'll ask me if I want to save it ... I usually say 'yes' to save the changes I've made, but if I resize it + then say 'yes' will the original tiff be resized? See that's what I don't want.
Bad workflow!! You should save as you go along and never as you close a file. However just to clear up all this confusion...if you resize your work and then say 'yes' when it asks you to save, it will save over the top of your original full size image, which is obviously very bad.

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So maybe what I'd have to do is save the tiff first, then resize, then do the 'Save As' to jpeg, then undo the resize or close it + say 'no' to save changes? Am I making this more complicated than it needs to be
Yes, mountain out of a mole hill
What you need to do is work on your full size tiff file. Once you are totally happy save your completed file in tiff format. Then with the image still open, you can now resize it to your required web dimensions, apply the required amount of sharpening, borders etc and then use the 'save as' dialog and select .jpg as the file format. Now when you save the file you will end up with a small version of your original .tiff in JPG form...basically two different shots, one full size completed image (possibly with layers etc) in .tiff format and your final web version (complete with the correct amount of web sarpening, borders etc) as a .jpg Because they are different formats when they are saved they will not overwrite each other. If you follow this workflow example you will never accidentally lose the original either.

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Oh right ok, I just have to remember not to save the resizing, like if I close the tiff it'll ask me if I want to save it ... I usually say 'yes' to save the changes I've made, but if I resize it + then say 'yes' will the original tiff be resized?
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See that's what I don't want. So maybe what I'd have to do is save the tiff first, then resize, then do the 'Save As' to jpeg, then undo the resize or close it + say 'no' to save changes?
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that's wot i do. cept i save as psd's not tiffs.

The save as jpg is the last thing I do so usually, not always, but usually I just close the psd (tiff in your case) and select no when it askes me to save the changes.

So its: -

1) Make image changes blah blah blah
2) Save main document (psd for me, tiff for you)
3) Resize to pixalo limits
4) Convert to 8 bit
5) Save as jpg

Either...

6) undo to step 3 if I want to work some more

or

6) Close main document. Say "no" to save changes.



Here's my two actions for saving as jpg.

Note that mine are set to 1000pixels on the longest side so you may want to edit them for your requirements.
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Re: Exif data - how to remove

This is a workflow issue. I think the best way is not to try to do everything at once. When you have got to the stage that you are happy with the tiff, save it 'as' what ever you want in order to preserve the original file. Then you can either carry on to resize and 'save as' a jpg, or close the image after tiff saving and return to convert to web jpg later.

From what you say I think you are trying to do everything in one hit, but all you need to do is to save the tiff once you are happy with it and you will not have to worry about messing up your edited file.
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Why would you want to remove EXIF data? Some of the information that is contained in it is very useful in the event that someone uses one of your pictures online without persmission...
Whilst this statement is very true, if you want to enter the monthly comp on here you have to remove the exif data. something I forget to do every month and have my knuckles wrapped and have to do it again.
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Cheers, Steve, OP+ Graham, I'm going to digest all this, give it another try, and report back

Valid point Gary!
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my workflow would go something like this

Copy pictures from card using reader and paste into 2 seperate ex.harddrives.
Then image i want i open with cs3 do my stuff and save as tiff into both ex.drives.
Then i resize and save for web making sure i save images at exact size i want them for, for the web, also i reduce the slider to about 82% or thereabouts and i then save this as a jpeg in allocated folder.

I always work from the tiff file if i need to do other things and always have 2 back ups of every picture i ever took.

I'm not ashamed to admit i dont know what 8bit and 16bit is about and should i be saving as psd

exif info i would like to add as much as possible if there are any suggestions

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you want to enter the monthly comp on here you have to remove the exif data
Okay - not wanting to go on too much of a tangent, but... why?
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To retain anonymity. If exif contains camera model, this might be a give-away as to who's pic it is.
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Okay - not wanting to go on too much of a tangent, but... why?
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To retain anonymity. If exif contains camera model, this might be a give-away as to who's pic it is.
Some EXIF information also contains the name of the photographer. Canon cameras for sure allow the owner to set this via software so that it appears on every shot.
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