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Old 17-04-2012, 16:04   #1 (permalink)
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I'm sure this topic has to have been brought up time and time again.. and for that I apologize.. Being new to photography and my recent experience with my Sigma I figured I would ask the question..
I am working with a Canon T1i Rebel (2 canon lenses 18-55mm & 55-250mm, Sigma 150-500mm [Sigma 2x converter])
I called Andorama and they told me to always use a UV and put the polarizer on top of that (?) Thoughts, opinions, suggestions?

What type of filters to buy
What Brand/Model to buy

The guy from the camera store that helped me out with my Sigma lens suggested getting the filters from the company that manufactured the lenses to make the glass.. which makes some sense..

One other point My wife has a Nikon D90 and she was getting the not crisp images as well after our experience this weekend we tried all of our CPL filters (she was using Hoya (G?)) after taking off the Hoya her images were crisp.. And I was under the impression that Hoya was a fairly decent reputable brand ?

One last thing I read which I'm sure everyone will agree on.. You spend $1000 on a lens and try to throw on a $10 filter.. you'll get $10 results.. Spend the money to get a quality filter...


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Old 17-04-2012, 17:38   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Filter Recomendations

I almost never use filters and certainly do not leave one on to "protect" my lens. You do not need a UV filter for a DSLR but some use them for protection. I have to assume that such photographers know that they are careless so likely to damage their lenses. I have never damaged a lens or filter in over 35 years so would not use protection unless in an extreme environment which will be very rare for me.

Placing a second filter on your lens is very poor advice so I would tend to question other advice from the camera shop. Every glass surface can cause internal reflections and thus flare which is often seen (or not seen by the inexperienced) as low contrast.

You should be particularly careful when photographing towards bright light sources (even if they are outside the frame). This can be landscapes, street night shots and studio photography. It is best to always use a lens hood in such circumstances and no filters but, if you must use a filter try to only use one at a time so take the UV filter off when using the polarising filter.

You are right that Hoya is a good brand.
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I always use Hoya HD filters for screw ins, they cost a bit more but you can get them for good prices on ebay. They are multi coated and superb quality.

If you do want to keep one on the lens all the time then a uv is fine. If you are going to use a circular polariser then swap them over, you dont need both on.

Something else you might want to consider is getting a Cokin P style holder so you can use square filters for graduateds etc
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Re: Filter Recomendations

There is a huge debate on the filter or no filter issue. I take the view that it depends on what your working environment is. For most 'average' use and studio work where it can be reasonably expected that the chances of something damaging the lens is small, the use of a filter for lens protection is probably not necessary. If you were going to shoot a motorbike scramble/trial, a motor rally stage or similar where there is a good chance of pebbles/grit/dirt flying around the chances of something hitting the lens is higher, a filter will give some protection.

Hoya make a range of filters in three (I think) quality grades, the pro series being the best/most expensive, but there are others like Lee, B&W and SRB-Griturn who supply Kood, and Hitech. Personally, I would not use Cokin. When I bought my 24-70 f2.8 Nikkor from Grays of Westminster they gave me a Marumi filter that I'd assume they approved of even though they are not expensive.

I would not normally stack filters other than maybe grads to cope with extreme conditions.
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Re: Filter Recomendations

Mr Canon and Mr Nikon go to amazing lengths to ensure that the lens you buy from him is as optically perfect and matched to your camera as possible. So why then stick a piece of cheap glass over the front of it?? It doesnt make sense.
If you NEED to use a filter, then buy the best quality you can. Hoya Pro are one of the best....and take it off afterwards. As Graham says, if your working in a dangerous (to the camera) environment, then it would be sensible to use a filter. Just use them as you need them.
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When I used to use filters I found the B+W one's better than the Hoya Pro.
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Re: Filter Recomendations

I was looking over the following site Lens Tip info
And compared the results
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One thing I noticed is not a lot of companies make their top of the line filter in 86mm.. Has anyone else noticed that or is it just me?

I ended up ordering Marumi DHG Super Circular P.L.D 86 mm Thru Amazon..
hanks for everyone's thoughts and comments..
There is just too much info out there

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Re: Filter Recomendations

Filters, "Only when needed" for me, other times, I keep the lens cap on unless I am taking a shot...

The 86mm "thing", yes, its a problem, occasionally, but I have a "Holder" that fixes over the front of any lens I have that can use different sizes.
I prefer Cokin filters, mainly because I inherited a few from my Dad, and he must have known what he was buying...
(He was a Forensics photog)
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The only time I have damaged a filter was when it fell off the lens and smashed on a stone! Doh!

The continual putting on and taking off the lens cap worked it loose. No permanent filters for me anymore unless absolutely necessary.

I do have a range of SRB Griturn ND &ND Grad filters and a P holder which are good for my lenses. I have a couple at 77mm.
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