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Old 21-10-2008, 09:33   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All... we are currently in Spain on holiday and my friend has accidently formatted his camera card with 60 photos of the Alambra Palace on it.
The camera is a Olympus C-50 zoom and uses a XD picture card.We have immediately removed the card, and I wish to know if there is any simple way to recover the missing photos? Any suggestions would be welcomed.
I may not be able to reply until I get back to the UK on Sunday.Many thanks for any help
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Old 21-10-2008, 10:07   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, simple don't use the card at all now until you get home and then recover the files using one of the many free available recovery programs.

There was a couple of threads about them recently, give me a sec and I will find you a link
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Here you go...

http://www.pixalo.com/community/comp...-me-22565.html

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http://www.pixalo.com/community/gene...elp-27675.html
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If you struggle for a program as many have offered before I will send you a spare copy of the Sandisk recovery software on disk if you need it.
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Hi Steve...Thanks for your quick reply.I will bring the card home with me and see if I can make any progress.
Our friends live here in Spain, so I will have no access to the camera only the card and a card readeTthe photos were not deleted but just the card was actually formatted while in the camera.

Vinny... I will take up your kind offer if I cannot resolve the problem.

I will come back to this thread again early next week.
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Hi Steve...Thanks for your quick reply.I will bring the card home with me and see if I can make any progress.
Our friends live here in Spain, so I will have no access to the camera only the card and a card readeTthe photos were not deleted but just the card was actually formatted while in the camera.

Vinny... I will take up your kind offer if I cannot resolve the problem.

I will come back to this thread again early next week.
thanks Brian.
Provided your friend has not recorded any pictures after formatting the card then as Steve has said you will be able to recover all of the files.


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Old 27-10-2008, 13:22   #7 (permalink)
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Hi all....i am now back in the UK. with the formatted XD memory card.
I have spent this morning trying a raft of software programs to try and retreive these files with no luck at all.
I have tried the card in a card reader and also in my old Fuji camera (which takes XD cards)
My next step was to take one of my own XD cards, take six photos on it and delete them.These pictures I was able to recover with no problem. I then formatted this card and tried once again to retreive them.This met with no luck at all. Although several programs promised recovery of formatted data ,so far none has been successful.I am not ready to give up on this as yet, but if anyone has direct experience of retreiving data from a formatted card I would love to hear.
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Software tried to date.
Zero Assumption Recovery.
CardRecovery
Data Doctor Recovery Memory Card
Easeus Data Recovery Wizard
PC Inspector Smart Recovery
Paretologic
GetData BackFor FAT.

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There is a problem here Brian as I understand your friend formatted the memory card in his Olympus camera. Unlike other cameras, most of the time, some Olympus and Fuji cameras models using xD Picture Card can perform a destructive format.

What you do not want to try is any utilities that will write to the card either (do not try to use scandisk, etc.). You only want to use a utility designed to read from it and save your images to your hard disk.

Do you have a card reader? I'd attempt to recover the images that way first if the camera refuses to use it.

I'd try Photorec. It's free. You'll see a download menu choice on the left side of the main page. But try my first link below for the Windows file.

http://www.cgsecurity.org/testdisk-6.11-WIP.win.zip

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Old 27-10-2008, 18:39   #9 (permalink)
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Hi Brian... Thanks for your reply. I will try out your two links.I will try this using my card reader.
I thought I was being a bit stupid with regard to being unable to proceed, but as you say, the data may well be destroyed.
The photos are not too important as I took many of the same shots with my own camera and I can post these over to my friend in Spain.It has just become a challange to me.
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Hi Brian... Thanks for your reply. I will try out your two links.I will try this using my card reader.
I thought I was being a bit stupid with regard to being unable to proceed, but as you say, the data may well be destroyed.
The photos are not too important as I took many of the same shots with my own camera and I can post these over to my friend in Spain.It has just become a challange to me.

Ok Brian ,use my first link that will take you strait to the zip file download.

Before you run Photorec make sure you have the camera card in the reader first.
The software should then recognise every drive in you computer.Select the one that corresponds to your XD card. The software then leads you through the method of selecting the options as to where the recovered files will end up. Just make sure you don't select the destination to be the card that is being read.

Best of luck, lets hear how you get on.
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Hi Brian......I think it is "Game Over"..........I have tried the two programs and followed your instuctions ,but they were unable to recover any data.
After a fruitless day of trying different ideas, I ran a small DOS program which is basically a hex editor. It showed all the clusters on the card as zeros so I am assuming that there is absolutely no information left on the card.I think it is now time to retire gracefully from this challenge.
Thank you for your help, if nothing else I have learned an awful lot about deleting and formatting.

Vinny.... Thank you for your offer of a Sandisk program but as you can see from my previous posts there is nothing left to recover from the card.
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Vinny.... Thank you for your offer of a Sandisk program but as you can see from my previous posts there is nothing left to recover from the card.
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Brian, I would still take Vinny up on this, as I cannot see how all the data has been lost. To actually overwrite all the data would take minutes (not the seconds a format does).

Obviously your call, as you've spent way too much time on this already
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Brian, I would still take Vinny up on this, as I cannot see how all the data has been lost. To actually overwrite all the data would take minutes (not the seconds a format does).
As I indicated earlier in this thread Steve ,

There is a problem here as I understand your friend formatted the memory card in his Olympus camera. Unlike other cameras, most of the time are ok to retreive, some Olympus and Fuji cameras models using xD Picture Card can perform a destructive format.

Can anyone else comment on this possibility that certain Olympus cameras perform a destruct formatting which prevents a recovery by most of the popular recovery software?

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have you contacted Olympus ..?
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Hi... Dave you are right, there is nothing lost from trying Vinny's Disk and so I will contact him shortly.
..... Mr Cat, I will try a shot at asking Olympus and also seeing if there is an Olympus forum where I may be able to check this out further.
I wil keep you posted on any developments.
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Ok... the ongoing saga of the formatted card.
Vince very kindly sent me a copy of SanDisk RescuePro which I used to try and recover the lost files.
After scanning the card it found nothing but suggested that if the card had been formatted in the camera, all the data could have been overwritten with Zeros. This bears out what Brian Wright had said in an earlier post.
Finally I ran a little test to prove the point.
I took two photos on my little Fuji 2megapix camera and deleted them.
Ran the sortware and they were recovered with no trouble.
Next I took two pictures deleted them and then formatted the card in a card reader.
These were also recovered.
Lastly I took two pictures deleted them and then formatted the card while in the camera.
These I was not able to recover once again Sandisk suggested that the card had been overwritten with zeros.
Whether this happens only on Fuji and Olympus XD Cards I cannot be sure.. but it does serve as a warning to ensure all photos are safely copied before formatting a card in camera.
Finally...I did find a forum wth regard to problems formatting Olympus cards in certain of their camera models. So I think now this matter is at last put to rest.
Thanks everyone for your imput
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Yes Brian, it did look like the formatting had done the dirt.It certainly puts the notion that only delete the pictures in the camera. I must admit I have never formatted any of my cards for the Canon or my wifes Nikon. Also I have also resisted deleting files on the card whilst its in the card reader.
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Hi Brian....I personally plug my camera into my laptop,and copy over all the photos to an external drive.
Once they show up on my screen I unplug the camera and then just delete them off the card.I like yourself never use the format command.
My friend in Spain,is quite philosophical about loss of the photos and admits it was just a moment of forgetfulness.He says it is a good excuse to travel back to Grenada and the Alhambra Palace and reshoot the pictures.
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Hi Brian....I personally plug my camera into my laptop,and copy over all the photos to an external drive.
Once they show up on my screen I unplug the camera and then just delete them off the card.I like yourself never use the format command.
My friend in Spain,is quite philosophical about loss of the photos and admits it was just a moment of forgetfulness.He says it is a good excuse to travel back to Grenada and the Alhambra Palace and reshoot the pictures.
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Brian, I fully agree with your friend, Alhambra Palace & Grenada are wonderful
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Brian, I fully agree with your friend, Alhambra Palace & Grenada are wonderful
yes - you've got a good excuse to go back now...
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