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Old 21-11-2005, 16:21   #1 (permalink)
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Gloves

Are there any gloves that will actually do a decent job of keeping hands warm without drastically increasing the risk of fumbling the camera onto the pavement?

The current cold weather, coupled with me taking the 20D everywhere, has hammered home just how cold hands can get when exposed to the elements for a few hours.

Since I'm going to be spending all of this coming Saturday and most of Sunday shooting outdoors I thought it might be worth investing in some gloves, assuming someone makes gloves that aren't going to result in me breaking my camera. All help appreciated. Cheers.
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Old 21-11-2005, 16:32   #2 (permalink)
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Thin leather driving gloves or cycling gloves (which have no fingerz from halfway down) ?

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Old 21-11-2005, 16:39   #3 (permalink)
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I use fingerless gloves mainly but when the weather gets really bad I use a pair of those thin cotten gloves underneith, they still allow full control and the feel of the camera in your hands but help keep the cold out.
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Totes do some thin gloves with small grip patches on the fingers and palm which are quite good. I sometimes use these inside a pair of fingerless jobbies, which have some rubberised strips on to give some grip. You really can't have too much grip when you have no feeling left.

Although most of the time I forget to take them with me and just freeze instead.
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Old 21-11-2005, 17:14   #5 (permalink)
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Hmm... those Totes ones sound about right. Time for a Froogle search.
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Old 21-11-2005, 17:20   #6 (permalink)
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I had to use thick gloves the other morning.

It was a little difficult at times to alter camera settings.

Life was made easier by having a wrist strap attached.
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Old 21-11-2005, 17:28   #7 (permalink)
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Wrist strap's a way of life for me now. Especially walking around the less desirable parts of London.

Buying gloves on the net... Not the best of moves. Time to get to a shop and try some on, I think. Cheers for the help all.
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Old 21-11-2005, 17:30   #8 (permalink)
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Hmm... those Totes ones sound about right. Time for a Froogle search.
Let us know what you come up with Jamey. Another possibility is shooting gloves. They're usually thin supple leather and full fingered with little grip patches in all the right places. The index finger folds back onto a Velcro patch for better feel of the trigger - shutter?
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Wrist strap was one of my better buys.........the Nikon one is expensive but fits better and more securly than the Canon one I had.
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Old 21-11-2005, 17:49   #10 (permalink)
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Oh right. You mean an actual wrist strap. I just wind the neck strap around my hand in an intricate manouvre reminiscent of boxers taping up their hands before a fight. I've got it down to a fine art.

CT - good tip, cheers. I think what gloves I buy will largely depend on what shops I can get to this week. Probably not many. Tesco (big one) and anywhere that's located in Shepherds Bush will be the favourites.
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I am sorry is there only me that sees the irony of fingerz asking about gloves :lol:
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Old 21-11-2005, 18:03   #12 (permalink)
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I guess RobertP noticed it too, judging from the spelling in his first post. But you're quite right. I ought to be a glove expert, or glovspert, as I call them. I'll make more effort in future.

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Old 21-11-2005, 19:10   #13 (permalink)
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I use normal cheap wooly gloves. I did have some fingerless gloves but can't find them for some reason.

I also have recently invested in a couple of 'Hotpods'. Basically gel sachets with a little disc in them. Break the disc and the pad gets nice and hot. Good to stick in your pocket, and stay warm for a short while.
They don't get mega hot, which is a shame, but it's enough to take the edge off, and they're reusable too. Just stick them in boiling water to return the gel to its original state...Magic

I think I may look into the some new gloves myself that I can keep on, I like Steves idea of thin cotton gloves underneath fingerless ones.
 
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Old 21-11-2005, 22:37   #14 (permalink)
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LowePro photo gloves: https://www.morrisphoto.co.uk/Produc...categoryid=135
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There are gloves whee the ends fold back, revealing the shutter finger. Don't know who makes them, but will try and find out
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But as usual, cost a lot for what they are
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i used to work in a bike shop and we sold a pair of endura gloves that would probably fit the bill. the best thing about them was that they were almost totally windproof and quite thin.

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Lovely job. Shame about the 20 price tag. Would want to try them on first for that price and not sure where I'll be able to do that before Friday night. Will look into it.
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Bog standard fingerless woolly gloves, probably 1.50 from your local industrial suppliers.

or

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mens-fingerles...QQcmdZViewItem

or even...

mittens that turn into fingerless gloves!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WINTER-FINGERL...QQcmdZViewItem

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Extra-woolly-slippiness-whoops-I've-dropped-it might come as standard!
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Extra-woolly-slippiness-whoops-I've-dropped-it might come as standard!
Doesn't that add to the excitement though ?
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Those LowePro ones look almost exactly like the Totes ones I mentioned, perhaps a tiny bit thicker.

Only the Totes would probably be about half that price, although that's only any good if you can find some. It would be very easy to waste 10's worth of time and effort looking for them.
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Those thinsulate ones can be found on any good pound shelf or pound shop
I think they have them in at my local shop. Might bag me a pair tomorrow.
 
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It would be very easy to waste 10's worth of time and effort looking for them.
That's very true. Good point. Not to mention 10's worth of petrol, the prices it's at these days.
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depends on the temperatures. I use a pair of leather flying gloves when it's above -2C, but below that, it's woolly mittens with slots for fingers under gore-tex outers and silk liners.
Frost-bite is stupid and it's only photography - not worth losing body parts over...
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I was wondering this myself too. This will be my first winter season with my camera. So I will be in need of a pair of warm gloves as well. As far as the camera goes though. Is there a certain temperature when the camera shouldn't be outside? I"m not sure I want to trek around with it when it is -30 out there. Do you all take them out in the blistering cold and snow?? How do you protect your baby? Today it is blistering cold and alot of whiteout conditions. It's quite nasty if your driving. Kids love it though. would make for some nice piccies though I would think.

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Well its pretty cold here Jewel, I think we're down to +6 today. Brrrr!
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I've taken my camera out just below freezing (think it was -1) and it was fine but I wouldn't want to go much colder.

You have to be extra careful not to touch or breathe on the lens and batteries run down quicker in the cold. I read somewhere that you should keep spare batteries in a pocket near your body to keep them warm - that way they'll last longer, apparently.
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Well pro cameras can and do work on polar expeditions and at the other extreme in the Sahara Desert in soaring temperatures, that's one of the reasons they cost so damned much. These are harsh environments though, even for those rugged cameras. For most of us who work in less extreme conditions, the camera is unlikely to come to any harm, the batteries will die first, so keeping a spare set or two in a warm pocket is a good idea.

The enemy is condensation when you bring the camera in from the cold, so seal it in a plastic bag or similar on your return and let it slowly acclimatize to room temerature before you open it.
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Better still, put the camera and lenses into an outhouse before venturing out into extreme cold (like on exercise in Norway, for example with the RM Arctic and Mountain Warfare Cadre) so that it cools to near outside temps before going out. That way any residual moisture in the camera wont instantly freeze. Same coming back in - I ususally leave the camera bag outside with all the weapons (they can't be brought inside tents for the same reason - the mechanisms freeze with the condensation).

Most pro-spec cameras will cope fine, although you may notice partial or total 'blacking-out' of LCD displays under -10C as the liquid crystal freezes up.
As long as the batteries are kept warm you should be OK.
I tend to wear lots of layers and the camera is usually shielded under the outer 'windproof' layer to keep it from freezing completely.
Cold weather-proofing for camera bodies and special cold-weather lubricants for the lenses are available from Nikon, but you need to give them advance notice and the cameras need to be packed away until you get to your (very) cold destination.
This was all with D1 and D1x bodies the year before last and our Team2 Phot is going to Norway on Monday for three weeks on Exercise with the RN and RM. I'll keep you posted as to how the D2x fares.
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