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Old 16-04-2009, 11:53   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

Seems to be a current favourite on another forum and I was wondering if anyone here has done anything like this?

I'd like to try something different with some cycling shots but obviously a full on car rig isn't going to be a good idea on a bike
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Re: Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

I shot some cycling shots laying in the back of my car the other week, that was fun But it was on a private road and I did have someone to drive the car. Tried standing out of the sunroof and laying in the boot (estate car) and the boot worked out the best.
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Old 16-04-2009, 13:28   #3 (permalink)
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I shot some cycling shots laying in the back of my car the other week, that was fun But it was on a private road and I did have someone to drive the car. Tried standing out of the sunroof and laying in the boot (estate car) and the boot worked out the best.
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Old 16-04-2009, 13:55   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

I know lifechooser has done this kind of thing .... one of his shots here :-

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Re: Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

It would be possible to recreate that shot on a bike, but....

It would make the bike unbalanced, so a counterweight would be needed.
The wobblyness of a bike would make me less willing to put camera gear so close to the road.

That doesn't mean it is impossible, but if I were doing it, I'd use a lightweight tripod, my old light and almost disposible compact camera (canon A series), and I would try to lean into the shot - the rig might have to be quite high when the bike is upright.

Far simpler would be a smaller rig, perhaps just a clamp, but I don't think the result would be so impressive.
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....... and I did have someone to drive the car
Always handy to have someone at the wheel if you're being driven!

I keep meaning to have a go as I've a tripod with a suction cup which works well on glass (and have used it stuck to a sunshine roof) so I'm sure it'll attach to paintwork OK. Maybe use Rob's ex-20D as I need a remote to fire it - but the camera's a bit too good to risk losing!
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Re: Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

Yes, I was going to try lying in the car & steering with my feet, but luckily Andy came along & drove for me

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Yes, I was going to try lying in the car & steering with my feet, but luckily Andy came along & drove for me

Mike - Shots here car shots
I don't think they'd be smiling like that if you had (nice shots, BTW - worth doing!) - they'd be looking worried or falling off their bikes with laffing!
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Re: Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

I took a variety of shots a couple of weeks ago, but haven't yet edited them. They included mount, tracking and panning shots. When I've uploaded them I'll revisit this thread. A guy who was with me has put his here - Car photos at Strangeparty

For mount photos, the tricks seem to be to get as far away from the car and as low as possible, use a really slow shutter speed, and low car speed too - rolling down a hill engine off is good.

For tracking - practice practice practice, even at the side of a main road. Get a reasonable distance away and learn what shutter speeds you are capable of. I've had plenty of practice over the years, so I've become quite adept at using very slow speeds. 1/90 is probably a good speed to start with.

Alfa Mito on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - 1/40 with zooming. Zooming at the same time is sometimes necessary if the car is approaching you as well as passing you, however it takes a lot of practice to get right. It's easier to reposition yourself so it doesn't happen.
Lambo Murciélago LP640 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - 1/15 @ 12mm - See how getting close makes only part of the car clear, hence the tip about distance. I took this sat on the kerb next to the car.
Jaguar XKR GT3 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - 1/20 @ 80mm. Good distance, no zooming required, a faster shutter would've been nearly as good with a higher success rate.

Finally, for tracking shots, again low is good, make sure you don't get hit by the bootlid, and try to get a 3/4 angle too. I've only tried this once and it didn't work out very well, not blurry enough.
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Re: Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

They were laughing anyway at me worrying I was going to roll out of the boot if we went too fast It was good fun though, I'd like to do it again, but need a good private road. That was just the drive to Champneys spa in Leicestershire where they had their team launch.
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Re: Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

This is the way to do it properly (see front driver's quarter down by the bumper)



This shot probably about 1/40 with the 75-300mm @ about 200mm
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Re: Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

Not done any of this myself, but there seems to be some very exotic set ups.







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Re: Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

Top - A very stable looking rig, but would need photoshopping out of the image.
Middle - Less stable, probably pricier, but easy to photoshop
Bottom - Not sure what this is, but it won't take a photo of the truck it's mounted to. It looks more like a platform for the driver to film wildlife from.

I know the owner of the top car - Steve Carter. He does awesome photography of scotland. Steve Carter - music and photography
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thanks for the comments. Bog standard side on panning I'm fine with, on the rare occasions I shoot cars - M O T O R I N G Photo Gallery by m1ke_a at pbase.com

It's the unusual angles thing I'd like to try more of. I was toying with rigging a digi compact to my TT bike on Monday for the hilly TT I rode. I had 49.7mph on the first descent and was going to video it. Decided against it as I didn't want any additional weight for the slog back up this hill 24 miles later.

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I thought you'd have had some obvious movement ones there?! - I would have just stood in the middle of the road and made them go round me
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Re: Has anyone set up rigs for shooting cars?

Are there many trees? Perhaps a kite working as a parasail might give interesting results. Weat a helmet though!
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LOL Mike, needed to be sharp face shots as was for team launch, so they want the sponsors to see their faces and you know how vain cyclists are and anyway, you know I don't like blurry shots, I like them nice and sharp

Oh, we were at Goodwood in 2006 as well. We probably passed in the paddock
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Are there many trees? Perhaps a kite working as a parasail might give interesting results. Weat a helmet though!
Many of the events Sarah and I snap are on dual carriageways!

Running some form of rig is obviously going to need to be done in more controlled circumstances but you do need a decent bit of road cos us cyclists need a bit of a run up to get some speed going

I've got some side on pans from the other race I rode over the weekend. Has to be said I had a complete mare with this but I'll publish these up and then get everyone to stick their two pennith worth in.
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Wot about your camera on the end of a monopod type device and use a zigview/pro-view to compose and shoot.

You could use it easily from the back of a car (estate) or on the back of a motorbike.

Setup should let you get inches from the road...
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Some good tutorials here:- http://www.rigshots.com.au/howto1.htm plus a quick video

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