How can I say this politely

Summerleft · 05-12-2007, 16:31

OOO I am annoyed, Ive been looking at doing some bridal wear shoots locally

One of the shops has this snooty ****** email me saying 'I cannot see your qualifications or who you trained with!!!!! '

Pardon, valid Q but irritating especially with the tone of the rest of it.

I shouldnt reply but I came up with some thing like this :

Ahh stuff it not even going to reply wheres my ice cream

_MB_ · 05-12-2007, 16:44

To be honest, I'd just walk away. The email doesn't sound like the writer will have their mind changed, although actually walking into the shop with your photos is probably the thing to do if you really want to get their attention.

gsgary · 05-12-2007, 16:54

Don't be polite tell them to **** off

Summerleft · 05-12-2007, 17:06

Well i did reply in the end, but a polite sorry i dont think I am the photographer for you and some other bits and not forgetting the obligatory thank you for your time *big smile with gritted teeth and *** off spoken quietly* at the end lol

traer · 05-12-2007, 17:29

I would probably have replied with a smile and link to this person's site

Wannabe · 05-12-2007, 17:42

[quote=traer;171038]I would probably have replied with a smile and link to this person's site

I should save that for future reference..

traer · 05-12-2007, 17:45

lol, i know, i went looking for a couple of images that i could edit for Summerleft to convey how i would have felt...

Summerleft · 05-12-2007, 17:50

Saved

**Angela** · 05-12-2007, 18:00

Just mind the language and the links please folks!

ChrisRabior · 05-12-2007, 20:42

Yeah, virgin eyes/ears in this place!

Just remember, always best to grin and bear it unless you truly know that this woman won't screw up your chances for finding work elsewhere. It would really be a shame to tell her off and find out she heads some committee or organization that all of the other bridal shops in your area respect.. bc that would totally destroy any hopes you had of getting work with any of them.

Summerleft · 05-12-2007, 21:10

Very true, thats why I sent a polite reply that I wouldnt be able to do it.

Les Meehan · 05-12-2007, 21:38

Just do some fabulous shots for her nearest competitor and let them say it all for you. As the old saying goes "a picture is worth a thousand 'swear' words" or something like that.

Willow5075 · 05-12-2007, 23:18

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Originally Posted by ChrisRabior

Yeah, virgin eyes/ears in this place!

Just remember, always best to grin and bear it unless you truly know that this woman won't screw up your chances for finding work elsewhere. It would really be a shame to tell her off and find out she heads some committee or organization that all of the other bridal shops in your area respect.. bc that would totally destroy any hopes you had of getting work with any of them.

good advice the world is a VERY small place - never burn your bridges!

cpd23 · 05-12-2007, 23:59

I think I would go as far to volunteer to do a shot at cost or bellow for the nearest competitor. Especially if I had nothing else going on. Just make sure they understand they can not talk about the pricing

ChrisRabior · 06-12-2007, 12:38

I don't know if I'd go as far as to shoot free or below cost.. another golden rule is that you NEVER want to establish yourself as that guy/girl that shoots for free or for peanuts. It's darn near impossible to get rid of that label once you've taken it on.

[EDIT]**On a personal note, I guess I took that label on a bit during my concert shots. Before I was trying to make income from this, I didn't have much of an issue giving bands a shot or two, it was cool to see my shots on their website with my name credited. Now it's almost like these guys are insulted if I mention payment for anything, and as such there are a few I haven't heard back from and probably won't ever hear from again. Furthermore, there are others that I'd shot for really cheap, $30 for a night shooting an entire show, that don't seem to comprehend why the price is higher. You'll save yourself countless arguments and explanations if you simply don't do it.** [/EDIT]

If your portfolio isn't enough to wow her into hiring you, then politely thank her for her time and move on to the next one. Come back once your portfolio is a bit more impressive. If it's already impressive, then maybe you just have to accept that she's not looking for a photographer. It happens. Of course, that's not to say you shouldn't try again, because she may be looking for one in the future.

Polite thanks, leave your card and conctact information, and start working on your next potential employer.

05-12-2007, 16:31	#1 (permalink)
Summerleft Feet under the table Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 1,578	How can I say this politely OOO I am annoyed, Ive been looking at doing some bridal wear shoots locally One of the shops has this snooty ****** email me saying 'I cannot see your qualifications or who you trained with!!!!! ' Pardon, valid Q but irritating especially with the tone of the rest of it. I shouldnt reply but I came up with some thing like this : Ahh stuff it not even going to reply wheres my ice cream Last edited by Summerleft : 05-12-2007 at 16:43.

05-12-2007, 16:44	#2 (permalink)
_MB_ Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 826	Re: How can I say this politely To be honest, I'd just walk away. The email doesn't sound like the writer will have their mind changed, although actually walking into the shop with your photos is probably the thing to do if you really want to get their attention.

05-12-2007, 16:54	#3 (permalink)
gsgary Forum Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chesterfield UK Posts: 768	Re: How can I say this politely Don't be polite tell them to **** off Last edited by Angela : 05-12-2007 at 17:57. Reason: This is a family site! Mind the language please!

05-12-2007, 17:06	#4 (permalink)
Summerleft Feet under the table Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 1,578	Re: How can I say this politely Well i did reply in the end, but a polite sorry i dont think I am the photographer for you and some other bits and not forgetting the obligatory thank you for your time big smile with gritted teeth and ** off spoken quietly* at the end lol

05-12-2007, 17:29	#5 (permalink)
traer Been here a while Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: dundee Posts: 424	Re: How can I say this politely I would probably have replied with a smile and link to this person's site Last edited by Angela : 05-12-2007 at 17:58. Reason: Link removed. This is a family site!

05-12-2007, 17:42	#6 (permalink)
Wannabe Been here a while Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada. Posts: 279	Re: How can I say this politely [quote=traer;171038]I would probably have replied with a smile and link to this person's site I should save that for future reference..

05-12-2007, 17:45	#7 (permalink)
traer Been here a while Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: dundee Posts: 424	Re: How can I say this politely lol, i know, i went looking for a couple of images that i could edit for Summerleft to convey how i would have felt...

05-12-2007, 17:50	#8 (permalink)
Summerleft Feet under the table Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 1,578	Re: How can I say this politely Saved

05-12-2007, 18:00	#9 (permalink)
Angela Pixalo Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wimbledon Posts: 5,848	Re: How can I say this politely Just mind the language and the links please folks!

05-12-2007, 20:42	#10 (permalink)
ChrisRabior Getting Comfy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 172	Re: How can I say this politely Yeah, virgin eyes/ears in this place! Just remember, always best to grin and bear it unless you truly know that this woman won't screw up your chances for finding work elsewhere. It would really be a shame to tell her off and find out she heads some committee or organization that all of the other bridal shops in your area respect.. bc that would totally destroy any hopes you had of getting work with any of them.

05-12-2007, 21:10	#11 (permalink)
Summerleft Feet under the table Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 1,578	Re: How can I say this politely Very true, thats why I sent a polite reply that I wouldnt be able to do it.

05-12-2007, 21:38	#12 (permalink)
Les Meehan Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: I conduct workshops in Andalucia, Spain Posts: 778	Re: How can I say this politely Just do some fabulous shots for her nearest competitor and let them say it all for you. As the old saying goes "a picture is worth a thousand 'swear' words" or something like that.

05-12-2007, 23:59	#14 (permalink)
cpd23 Getting Comfy Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 186	Re: How can I say this politely I think I would go as far to volunteer to do a shot at cost or bellow for the nearest competitor. Especially if I had nothing else going on. Just make sure they understand they can not talk about the pricing

06-12-2007, 12:38	#15 (permalink)
ChrisRabior Getting Comfy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 172	Re: How can I say this politely I don't know if I'd go as far as to shoot free or below cost.. another golden rule is that you NEVER want to establish yourself as that guy/girl that shoots for free or for peanuts. It's darn near impossible to get rid of that label once you've taken it on. [EDIT]On a personal note, I guess I took that label on a bit during my concert shots. Before I was trying to make income from this, I didn't have much of an issue giving bands a shot or two, it was cool to see my shots on their website with my name credited. Now it's almost like these guys are insulted if I mention payment for anything, and as such there are a few I haven't heard back from and probably won't ever hear from again. Furthermore, there are others that I'd shot for really cheap, $30 for a night shooting an entire show, that don't seem to comprehend why the price is higher. You'll save yourself countless arguments and explanations if you simply don't do it. [/EDIT] If your portfolio isn't enough to wow her into hiring you, then politely thank her for her time and move on to the next one. Come back once your portfolio is a bit more impressive. If it's already impressive, then maybe you just have to accept that she's not looking for a photographer. It happens. Of course, that's not to say you shouldn't try again, because she may be looking for one in the future. Polite thanks, leave your card and conctact information, and start working on your next potential employer. __________________ Canon Rebel XT \| EF 70-200mm f/4L USM EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 \| EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III \| EF 50mm f/1.8 SIGMA 18-50mm f/2.8 DC Macro \| Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di LD \| 135mm f/2.8 Manfrotto 3021BPRO w/ 804RC2 pan/tilt head \| Manfrotto 697B w/ 3229 head Check out my tear sheets and Check me out on Alamy Last edited by ChrisRabior : 06-12-2007 at 12:44.