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How Do Most People Learn How To Use Cs3

AT SOME POINT I WILL THINK ABOUT GETTING PHOTOSHOP CS3. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF GOOD TUTORIALS ON HERE, BUT WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO LEARN.

WHAT BOOKS ARE THE BEST ONES TO BUY FOR BEGINNERS TO CS3? IS IT BEST TO BUY TUTORIALS ON DVD? HOW DO MOST PEOPLE LEARN?
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Re: How Do Most People Learn How To Use Cs3

I've used a combination of things. Books, cover DVD's from Digital Photo magazine, tutorials on Pixalo and some trial and error!

Choice of books is personal as different writing styles will suit different people - but there are plenty to pick from. I've got three books for CS2, much of which is applicable to CS3, so I won't be rushing to update.

I think the DVD route is perhaps the easiest way as you get to look at the screen through the instructor's eyes. As well as the free cover disks there are lots of tutorial DVD's on the market too.
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THANKS GRAHAM, AS YOU SAY I THINK THE DVD, IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY,AS YOU CAN SEE IT RATHER THAN READING IT, WHICH IS CONFUSING SOMETIMES.
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The value of the books is as a reference. If you want to look something up, you can't beat a book.
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A what, a book! whats that ....

For CS3 and any other apps I found the best way was online at the same time as using the application. Also the CS3 help is quite useful, one of the best things though I think is to open a picture save it as a copy (just in case) and then try everything, play around and have note pad open to remember how your did it. If you anything like me its much more fun.
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VERY TRUE, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY, IT'S HARD TO NO WHICH ONES TO BUY.
I HAVE LOOKED THROUGH THE BOOK REVIEWS, THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT SOTELO HAS RECOMMENDED.
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VERY TRUE, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY, IT'S HARD TO NO WHICH ONES TO BUY.
I HAVE LOOKED THROUGH THE BOOK REVIEWS, THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT SOTELO HAS RECOMMENDED.
As I said - it comes down to personal preferences.

For instance, I find Scott Kelby's writing style makes me cringe - but his books are really good in terms of content and information. Martin Evening is more to my taste - but others find him too dry. Galer and Andrews are also good - for me anyway!

I've got all three. Now I don't have to choose
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Re: How Do Most People Learn How To Use Cs3

Martin Evening is very to the point in an understandible way , "Woody" my wife is very good at leaving little recipes around the kitchen for me so as I can always find something to eat or snack on. In that light I feel you can read and watch all the things you want but if they don't leave you with all the little recipes you end up haveing to go trial and error,,better yet,,do a little art work and use everything you can find in the tool bar. Everybody keeps those neat little recipes to them selves,,or most of them anyway. I guess you could say that's what they would feel get's them ahead of the other guy with there work. In the long run the more you dive into your own idea about what to use, the better photoshop can work for you. In CS3, just a review on the web showed me everything new, but it was up to me to make them work like I wanted.
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DABHAND & BOOFERS, THANK YOU I WILL CERTAINLY LOOK AT MARTIN EVENING BOOKS THANK YOU.
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Yep, Martin Evening, but Galer + Andrews, as mentioned by Graham - and Focal Press books in general - are excellent, Woody The Focal Press books by Galer often have a DVD included.

EDIT: To be more specific, and if it helps, I have 2 books on CS3: "Adobe Photoshop CS3 for Photographers" by Martin Evening, and "Adobe Photoshop CS3 A-Z" by Philip Andrews. I also have out of the library "Digital Imaging" (3rd edition) by Mark Galer + Les Horvat. All are published by Focal Press, and all are excellent. The 1st + last mentioned books both have a DVD. The A-Z book is a quick reference guide. The "Digital Imaging..." book is not on CS3 specifically, but is built around Photoshop, so will still apply.

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THANK YOU CHARLOTTE. I HAVE JUST ORDERED MARTIN EVENING" PHOTOSHOP CS3 FOR PHOTOGRAPHERS", FROM TESCO JERSEY. I WILL LOOK FOR PHILIP ANDREWS.
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You're welcome Woody Learning CS3 can be a bit daunting (I'm still new at it myself) and I think the trick is to not overload yourself, but take it one step at a time, as there's a lot more to it than Elements. Although knowing Elements should give you a good head start. Good luck + happy learning
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THANK YOU CHARLOTTE, ELEMENTS 5 WAS A GOOD STARTER FOR ME, I WAS THINKING OF GETTING ELEMENTS 6. BUT I HAVE DECIDED TO LEARN AS MUCH AS I CAN AND THEN GET CS3.
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THI HAVE JUST ORDERED MARTIN EVENING" PHOTOSHOP CS3 FOR PHOTOGRAPHERS", FROM TESCO JERSEY. I WILL LOOK FOR PHILIP ANDREWS.
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I after looking a quite a few PS books I bought this one. I think you have made a very good choice there.
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I HOPE SO, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO BE THE BOOK MOST PEOPLE BUY, I HAVE READ THE REVIEWS, IT SOUNDS VERY GOOD.
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I don't know if it is still on - but Adobe were offering CS3 at half price to users of Elements. They were sending e-mails to users with a code to put into the shopping basket. If it is still on, it is worth getting it now.

Of course it might be that CS4 is around the corner, but even so, still good VFM.
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A what, a book! whats that ....

For CS3 and any other apps I found the best way was online at the same time as using the application. Also the CS3 help is quite useful, one of the best things though I think is to open a picture save it as a copy (just in case) and then try everything, play around and have note pad open to remember how your did it. If you anything like me its much more fun.
I think i'll try you notepad idea next time I'm playing in PSP - I do it all the time for writing documentation at work ...dont know why I never thought about doing it for myself!
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Woody I hope you don't end up like me I bought one then another then another and have a ton and never remember what I read, LOL....
I can tell you that the best thing you can do is buy one like Photoshop CS3 From A to Z (Crew, I didn't see this book in the review section hint , hint), This book tell you where everything in Photoshop CS3 is located ..... and practice, practice, practice...I found that no matter what the books say if you don't know where everything is you will still take a week just to fix one picture.
So first learn where every tool is at and that book is perfect for that, wish I lived near and would let you have it but I'll I can do is recommend it.
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DABHAND, I HAVE NOT HAD AN EMAIL FROM ADOBE, BUT I WILL LOOK INTO IT, THANKS

WILLOW, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA

SOTELO, THE A - Z BOOK YOU MENTIONED IS ON MY LIST, BUT AS YOU SAY YOU CAN GET CARRIED AWAY AND GET TOO MANY BOOKS. YOU THEN END UP PAYING MORE FOR THE BOOKS THAN YOU DO FOR CS3.
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DABHAND, I HAVE NOT HAD AN EMAIL FROM ADOBE, BUT I WILL LOOK INTO IT, THANKS :
Woody - if you ring their customer services and give them your serial number they can verify you are a registered user. I did this as I had not got the e-mail - turned out that when I registered my very old Elements 2 it was with an e-mail address that since was made redundant when I changed my ISP. As the e-mail had been sent to the old address and so I did not have the code, they got a supervisor's permission to input the code for me.
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ONLY ONE PROBLEM WITH THAT GRAHAM, I NO LONGER HAVE THE SERIAL NUMBER,AS I DO NOT HAVE ELEMENTS 4 OR 5 ANYMORE. I HAVE ALSO CHANGED MY EMAIL ADDRESS
SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY EXPLAIN WHY I HAVE NOT HAD AN EMAIL. NEVER MIND IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, THANKS FOR THE THOUGHT.
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ONLY ONE PROBLEM WITH THAT GRAHAM, I NO LONGER HAVE THE SERIAL NUMBER,AS I DO NOT HAVE ELEMENTS 4 OR 5 ANYMORE. I HAVE ALSO CHANGED MY EMAIL ADDRESS
SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY EXPLAIN WHY I HAVE NOT HAD AN EMAIL. NEVER MIND IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, THANKS FOR THE THOUGHT.
As long as you have registered it they ought to be able to verify it for you. They often go on the e-mail address. You could tell them that your windows laptop that Elements is installed on is broken - they don't have to know it is the screen surround - and you have changed to a Mac so can't get the serial number from there and you have mislaid the disc.

Can't you check your old address for the e-mail?

We are talking about HALF PRICE CS3 here. Surely worth a bit of effort.
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I WILL CERTAINLY GIVE IT A TRY GRAHAM, GOT NOTHING TO LOSE. I WILL GIVE THEM A CALL TOMORROW. THANK YOU.
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Old 06-04-2008, 15:54   #25 (permalink)
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When you buy CS3 and register it, you should be offered a choice of three gifts by Adobe. One is a reduction on the price of a book, one is a new font but the third is 31 days free access to Lynda.com which is a training site (take this option). Once you have logged in you can access many video training tutorials including a number covering CS3. I recommend that you try the Deke McClleland tutorials. His US accent and poor jokes can be a little off-putting initially but his tutorials are well planned, accurate and easy to follow. They take you logically through CS3 and the Bridge though you can jump around if you wish. You will need to spend some time on this so I suggest you do not log into Lynda.com until you have a lot of spare time and can fully benefit from the training. I would seriously consider paying a subscription to Lynda.com, if I had a future training need. I was upgrading from CS so I only had to concentrate on the differences but the jump was CS to CS3 was considerable. I found it helpful to makes some notes along the way and have frequently referred back to those notes.
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THANK YOU DAVE, THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE GIVEN WILL BE VERY HELPFUL.
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Im another Martin Evening fan, if I want to know how to do something I just look it up in his book and hey presto. On the few occasions that I have been unable to find a solution I just ask on here as there are some really helpful peeps.
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THANKS GARY, MARTIN EVENING BOOK ON IT'S WAY. I KNOW ALSO THERE ARE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE ON HERE, SO HOPEFULLY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO MANY PROBLEMS, BUT LIKE ANYTHING NEW IT'S LIKE ROCKET SCIENCE TO BEGIN WITH, SORRY DID I SAY BEGIN WITH, I ALWAYS HAVE PROBLEMS. THANKS
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Another Lynda.com fan here. I liked the Chris Orwig tutorials. There is nothing like seeing someone actually perform a photo retouching and explain why they are doing what they are doing along the way. I found that really helpful and I think I learned more than if I had read the same thing in a book.
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