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Old 04-06-2009, 14:00   #1 (permalink)
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How do you "manage" your photos ?

I'm hopeless at organizing my pics. With having several cameras on the go at the same time, I download onto the laptop when the cards get 50-100 images on, edit in Picasa and delete the bad ones.I used to save everything onto cd but that was when I wasnt taking as many photos as I currently do. Just now Im selecting my best shots and deleting the rest.Will save the best onto cd/dvd, and keep many of them on my laptop to play with.I use PS and Gimp but not that much. I
also have a Flickr account ( not pro yet ), Photobucket and Shutterfly albums.
Sometimes I feel overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of pics. Thats why Ive spent the past day or so deleting mediocre ones from my Picasa albums- why keep pics that arent that good ?
Also am housesitting from tomorrow and hope to take many new pics while Im away...
How do you decide what to delete, save, store ??

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Re: How do you "manage" your photos ?

hi Cath, welcome to pixalo,,
I use 3 folders starting with the year, within this is an event folder, within this is the camera, owner or what ever. 3 clicks and I'm at my picture. I store all my pictures on external hard drive and have limited my time with pictures on the web to the places I enjoy the most. Using different sites can take up a lot of time. Always back up your pictures to a duplicate drive.
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Here's what I do these days - it's probably untypical!

1. Try very hard not to take duff pics. Pretend we're still in the film era, and that every shot deserves consideration. That has an enormous effect on the number of rejects.

2. Delete no-hopers on the camera as I go along, if possible, so there are fewer to download.

3. Download the RAW files into Aperture, with a Project for each date. I group these into folders for Year and Month. I reference the files externally - i.e. I don't save the RAW files in the Aperture Library, but in an Originals folder on the hard drive. This also uses sub-folders for year and month.

4. I do a quick review in Aperture and delete any further rejects from both the Project and the hard drive.

5. I then Keyword the pics that are worth keeping, and set up one or more Smart Albums that automatically pick up the Keywords and groups those photos together. Any editing and adjustments can be carried out from either the Project or the Smart Album, and the results are common to both.

6. The upshot is that I have the originals plus edits in both date-ordered Projects and in Albums according to the Keywords. (Creating the album does not duplicate the image file - it just adds to the Library entries.)

7. In 99% of cases I don't need to Save As or Export anything, except for the web. I can view the edited pics, print and do slideshows etc from within Aperture. That saves a lot of disk space!

I guess you can do a similar thing in Lightroom and other editors that have an asset management facility.
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Re: How do you "manage" your photos ?

Silky I'm impressed

I also avoid taking a lot of pictures and check the histogram immediately. I delete shots with large blown areas and retake if possible.

I also use folders, based on date of taking and ten have two other folders "Processed" and "Pixalo" for edited shots. I backup to an external hard drive from time to time.

I used to use keywords, but am too lazy to do it on a regular basis. I only process the best and otherwise important shots, so there are not that many to scan through.*I guess that I could delete more, but storage is cheap.
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Re: How do you "manage" your photos ?

Thanks guys for your advice so far. Im going to set up a system over the next week or so- Ill have a lot of time as Im on holiday Since I got the DSLR Ive taken even more shots than usual.Im trying to be selective and delete the duff ones straight away-esp. as the files are so big. I also need to sort the folders by camera used as I am currently using three.......also will save the best macro shots into another folder. Once Ive compiled a few good ones ( tomorrow evening starting ), will finally start to put some into a gallery here.
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i keep everything thats not instantly binnable you never know when u go back and have another look at an older pic and think how could i h ave missed that one..........
I save the raw files onto an external......... in the same folder i save the hi res Tiff files........ in another folder with the same name i save the low res web shots. name the folder by the place name and or date if its a return visit and thats it.
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Old 04-06-2009, 18:02   #7 (permalink)
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Re: How do you "manage" your photos ?

If it's of any help...

Within the 'Originals' folder I have something like this...

A folder called 40D 2009
Then subfolders called 40D 2009-01, 40D 2009-02, etc.
Then sub-subfolders containing the RAW files, called 40D 2009-01-01, 40D 2009-01-02, etc.
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Old 04-06-2009, 18:28   #8 (permalink)
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I save my images in folders to two external hard drives so they are backed up and stored twice.

The folders are named with the event and date.
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Re: How do you "manage" your photos ?

Store under camera make (as I use 6 tho 3 get rarely used), date, pic number, location
Process TIFFs into a subfolder of RAW and backup RAW to external H/D
Save for web to set of folders/subfolders by commission, date and location/subject (so might get mix of all 6 cameras)

Rarely delete in-camera (wastes too much valuable shoot time!). Used to be good at ensuring I took few shots but combination of getting sloppy and the need to ensure at least one good shot out of a composition has upped my duplicates
Even rarer delete RAWs - wish I could say it's because they're so good but sadly not. Keep runners up for various projects/uses (even rubbish shots can be successfully used to create graphics, small web images or composites)
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Keeping it "Simples"....
I have a whole drive on the computer labelled "Photo"....
In that, I make a sub-folder with date and title, and transfer EVERYTHING across from the memory card in RAW format.
I then create a "Keepers" sub-folder, and transfer everything that worked into that.
This is the hard part.... you have to decide "Work or not", and ONLY keep the ones worth keeping...
I do this on two screens.... one with the viewer open on, and another with the files open on.. its easier that way for me.
I delete all the dross, and put the memory card back in the camera and FORMAT it.
I make a backup to external hard drive of the folder I just created, "Just in case"
I create a new folder marked "Edited", and anything that needs a touch up gets put in that, but I never destroy the original in the keepers file.

I do not use the windozy "My Documents" file, the separate drive is an act of preservation, I dont trust Windozy, and if the computer goes base-over-apex, that whole drive can be plugged into another computer

As it is data only, it can be used by any computer, and had been transplanted from "the old thing under the desk" to the new computer without any problems, as it is not dependant on any operating system.

I do not use any separate software to keep organize or store those photo's either, as above, if I get a failure in software, I am not dependant on it in any way.

You may be getting the idea I trust software and hardware about as far as I can throw it?...

About 60 ft for a hard drive....

I also know that if an external hard drive fails, its worth taking apart and seeing if the drive inside is either SATA or IDE and if that can be "Slaved" into the computer to recover data, as usually an external hard drive failure is the power unit going pop, and not the actual drive unit....
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I'm going to be re-reading all of this... I manage my files very badly. I'm forever hunting through different drives trying to work out exactly which ones a particular series of shots are on.... It needs to improve, so looking for some good hints too.
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It all depends on what type of photography and what you do with your photographs. I photograph mainly for competitions so do need to identify my better shots and there is little point in processing the lesser shots. Also because of changing trends in competitions (and sometimes rules about using recent images), it rarely pays to search through older pics. So although I managed hapily with the Bridge for Years, I do have Lightroom 2 now which clearly has a more powerful search capability. I rarely delete images in camera because it is distracting on a photoshoot. My process is:-
  1. Load images to monthly folder
  2. Iinitially review and delete unwanted
  3. Colour code to indicate unprocessed
  4. Stack HDR and Pano images
  5. Apply keywords
  6. Rate image up to 5*
  7. Edit 5* images
  8. Edit most4* images
  9. Quickly review 3* to see if any gems but otherwise leave them

In the deletion phase I have been deleting 40% of images on average but since buying a 5D MkII I am being even tougher as the files are so large. Only about 5% of the frames I expose have a chance of being fully processed and used in a competition.
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1. Down load onto hard drive and file by shooting date
2. Import in to Lightroom and add general key-words at start of import, ie; location name or name of event.
3. Revue in Lightroom and delete the dross
4. Revue again and delete further dross
5. Revue for a third time and Tag the “Picks”
6. Select the “Picks” and add specific key-words for each image
7. Edit images
8. Colour code and / or add * ratings

The beauty of Lightroom is that you can search for any photo by any of the keywords, folder names or embedded meta-data, or combinations of the afore mentioned.
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Organization is something I am very good at to be fair. As well as my flickr account I also use external HD's for my storage. I never store any of my work on my notebook as I like to keep the HD free for everything else. I just create folders for different subjects and work that way, it makes it much easier to locate what I need.

I have also started to save my PSD and Raw files on important work just in case I need to go back to them and re edit. I had a bad moment when I wanted to re-work on a file to find that I had deleted the Raw files. Some habits need to be changed still, I am getting there though...
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i unfortunately dont delete anything! some of the bad ones can be turned black and white, and you can get a different feel for them... anywho when saving photos, i make a folder titled with what the photos have to do with such as "mothersday" then in that folder i make another one entitled "fix" then i drag all the photos i want to edit into the "fix" folder... haha i then! make another folder normally entitled "upload" so that way i have the original in the "fix" folder, and the saved one in the "upload" folder- and yes. i run out of space a lot, and sometimes i do go back and delete the ones i'm know i wont use.... ever... and i normally snap away, putting time into each shot mind you, but sometimes those random shots have wonderful results
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I run two different catalogue systems on separate PCs, one for 'work' and one for 'family snaps'. The 'family snaps' PC uses Adobe Elements. It automatically imports everything from the camera or card, renames the files with the shot date, and then stores them in a folder under the shot date in a 'filing' folder. I then go through intermittently and file the images by category in a folder under the current year. At the end of each year I archive off the images onto DVD but leave the thumbnails in Elements so I can still find things that I want.

The work stuff is a bit different. It starts off the same with Lightroom importing the images, renaming them with the shot date, and dumping them into a folder with the shot date. I then immediately back the folder up onto one or more DVD discs before I do anything else. Once that is done I run through and use 'pick' or 'reject' to sort the images (I rarely delete anything as you never know). The 'picks' are then rated from 1 to 5. I process all the 5s and then the 4s and review the 3s just to make sure I am happy with my original opinion (same as Dave Canon basically). Anything lower than a 3 is most likely a duplicate so I leave them alone.

Where possible I apply generic keywords as part of the import process, both Elements and Lightroom allow you to do that if you use the Adobe photo capture tool. As most of my work stuff is commissions I don't worry too much about detailed keywording.
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1. Try very hard not to take duff pics. Pretend we're still in the film era, and that every shot deserves consideration. That has an enormous effect on the number of rejects.
best advice ;-)

I have one folder 'pictures' and then in it folders named:

year.month.day_description_[camera]

and that's about it, I get a nicely sorted overview of all pictures I have ever taken no mater if I use Picasa or filesystem or anything else. I put the camera field only if it was a film camera, otherwise it's easy to see the info from the exif if it was digital.
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If my pics are from a shoot, I have a designated photobucket account for reference purposes that I upload all of the final pics to. From a shoot (I'm talking family/engagement/etc I do this at an amateur level) I keep ALL photos, obviously I delete the junk and level check photo's and the random sky shots for my white levels etc, but otherwise keep everything else, even the non edit worthy pics and they go onto disks and kept in my files with my release forms for that shoot.

Personal photography (family gathers, "just pictures", random trial and error work) I throw it on my lap top and usually upload to photobucket to share with friends/family.

I am in the process of getting a few designated hard drives for my work as well, plus I'll do disk back ups periodically.

I also like you delete the junk/blurry/blah/what the heck was I thinking and what is that pics so I don't store those.
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I put all raw images on my external hard drive, in a folder marked "raw". Then in there I make a new folder with description and date. That way I always have my originals. Depending an how busy I've been, I will back that drive up to yet another drive once a week or once a month.

My processed images get organized in my picture folder the same as my external hd and I keep excellent track of them with iPhoto.

Before i started doing this I had pictures all over the place. It took me close to a month to get organized.
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