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View Poll Results: After reading HP finding re Printer Ink, which option will you now go for ?
I currently use Genuine Ink & will stick with it 20 52.63%
I currently use Compatible Ink but will now switch to Genuine 1 2.63%
I currently use Compatible Ink & will stick with it 12 31.58%
I do not print at home, instead I use a 3rd party (eg. PhotoBox etc...) 5 13.16%
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Old 23-08-2006, 14:37   #1 (permalink)
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How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

Based on research by HP they reckon you're being ripped off by compatible inks Full news here :- http://www.pixalo.com/community/news...rior-7516.html

Got me thinking how many people use genuine vs compatible ink refills, & what your thinking will now be after reading the above ?

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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

I prefer genuine ink - but I also prefer Canons prices, that why I went and bought a Canon IP5200 last time my HP ran out

Use PhotoBox.co.uk for large numbers of prints and large formats - but for one offs and test prints, or prints for family occasions I print my own.
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Old 23-08-2006, 14:47   #3 (permalink)
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

How many A4 Photo prints do you reckon you get out of the Canon Glyn, before refill time ?
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

I can't believe the figures in that Hp report at all. I use only Jet Tec with Gallerie paper & have been for the last 3 years. So according to Hp All my prints should have faded to nothing by now. "Well they ain't so there"
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

Not really paid much attention - a guestimate would be atleast 80+ full page prints, and even then only the dominant colour used to print would be exhausted. Also always use the highest quality setting.

TBH compared to my HP it seems to go on forever (not that the HP was really a photo printer).
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

Cheers Glyn. A few years back I bought a Canon S95? (something like that) for Photo Printing, but never refilled cartridges when it cost £60 for the lot Ended up binning printer when I moved house.
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

I use genuine Epson cartridges for my printer but, if I have any major printing to do then I do it at work, plus, as I work from home one day a month, my bosses see fit to pay for the cartridges for me!!

I've only used compatible ink once, when I had an HP, but I was so disappointed with the results, even just printing documents, that I never used them again.
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

Some years ago, Which? tested third party inks and refills, and found that they were prone to fade prematurely. (does not make you a bad person). As a result, I've always stuck to original inks, but am now looking to order from the net to reduce costs.

I also bought a Canon printer as they have always in recent times got good results across the board in the Which? tests, with the 'do it all' printers scoring really well in printing photos. They are, if not the most economic, in the top flight for economy of ink too.
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

Use both, tho' having an Epson I'm wary of 3rd party - Epson use nozzles on printer, whereas with others they're on ink cartridge
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

I use a Canon printer and up until recently used original inks too. The quality was always excellent but like many I thought I would try some cheaper alternatives. Since I have my important and larger prints done at professional printers all I use my home printer for are the smaller shots that I display at home, these are usually short lived and changed on a regular basis so their longevity is not vital to me.

If I was printing important stuff that I was worried about fading in years to come I would certainly stick with original manufacturers inks but in certain circumstances, third party inks make much more sense.
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

I have a cheap epson (R200) which I use cheap inks with. The quality is acceptable for home use but no good for anything more.
I also have a HP (photosmart 8750) which I only use genuine inks with.

It's a system I find works well if you have the space.
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

I use genuine inks for my Epson R340 and they last for along time. You have to shop about as prices vary alot, the printer takes six cartridges and i buy them in a pack which brings the price down even more works out around £5.50 a cartridge. Another point to realise is that if you use non branded inks you invalidate the warranty on your printer, how they would know if your printer broke that you had been using non-branded inks i have no idea but its clearly stated on the warranty info!!
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

I use photobox for images that are important those that arn't so I use a Canon ip4000 the printer has done me pround had it for about 1 1/2 years now and apart from the supplied ink it has been running on 3rd party ink from BRITINK is a registered trademark of Roger Needham and Sons Ltd. or co.uk these people have won awards for there ink and it has been said that the colours are as good as the printer manufacturers I have to agree the differences are minimal. I dont know if i should comment canon or britink but the printer (Touch wood) has not needed a clean in the time i've had it even when nothing has been printed for a month or more and the cartridges always come out so very close to empty that I have to say there is no ink wastage.

I will stick to britink and somthing really bad would have to happen to stop me buying another Canon. for Canon
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

genuine for the ip4200 but most stuff goes to photobox nowadays. It's cheaper and in most cases better.
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

I have yet to go down the road for a decent printer anything printed is photobox.
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

Space is a problem for me, so that, and thinking of the overall costs of a decent inkjet, made me decide to use Photobox for all my digital photo printing - though the recent postal strike (fortunately now settled) did make me think more about the camera shop minilab that I use for film dev & print. I do tend to save up my large prints for one of Photobox's special offers - they seem to come along every month or two.

I have an old Oki laser for b&w documents, which I use Oki toner in.
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

Epson R300, always used (still do) genuine ink.
Never wanted to take the risk of poorer quality or possible problems.

Besides, I'm really very pleased with my prints from it
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I use genuine inks for my Epson R340 and they last for along time. You have to shop about as prices vary alot, the printer takes six cartridges and i buy them in a pack which brings the price down even more works out around £5.50 a cartridge. Another point to realise is that if you use non branded inks you invalidate the warranty on your printer, how they would know if your printer broke that you had been using non-branded inks i have no idea but its clearly stated on the warranty info!!
Sorry but I want to scotch this idea as it is a myth. Stupot is right, it often DOES state this on the warranty. However, it is completely unsustainable as has already been established in a court of law after someone took Epson to court over this very issue.

It was declared that for a company to limit the warranty based on the sale of sonsumables was in breach of the laws on restrictive practice. Epson tried to argue that they could not be held responsible for a printer that had used inferior inks. This was debunked as they could provide no evidence of any kind that a technical breakdown could occur by using other inks, only that print quality might be inferior, something not covered by the warranty anyway.

It is generally now accepted by all manufacturers that they haven't got a leg to stand on when trying to refuse a warranty repair UNLESS the damage is caused by a leak of a non-branded cartridge due to rupture of its casing or any leak from a home refilled cartridge. Home refills are definitely not a good idea because a lot of cartirdges, like those in the HPs and Epsons, have a seal that is integral to the drawing down of the ink. Once the seal is broken, the cartridge no longer works as effectively.

If you stick to non-branded cartridges that conform to BS 9001, you will never have the problem of your printer being declared outside of warranty.... well, until the 12 months is up anyway!

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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

I use compatible inks when i can get them. I have a nice big Epson a3+ printer, and find it ridiculous that when it runs out of ink it is cheaper for me to buy a whole new printer complete with ink cartridges than to replace them with originals. This printer will not be as good quality as mine but with all the new technology it's only a matter of time.
I tend not to do a great deal of printing now, and each time i need new ink (normally for text or low quality images), i just go and buy a cheap printer (only when i can't find the compatibles). This then leaves me feeling guilty about the environment and the disposable nature of the world we live in.
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

I only use genuine inks for my Canon Pixma i5000, I learned a hard lesson when I used compatible inks on my Epson, it cost a fortune having to clean the heads so often it proved to be false economy.
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Re: How many people use Genuine Printer Ink vs Compatible

My preference is original...I have Epson printers. A couple of years ago I purchased two set of compats and both my combo and photo printers died the same weekend.
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I only use genuine inks for my Canon Pixma i5000, I learned a hard lesson when I used compatible inks on my Epson, it cost a fortune having to clean the heads so often it proved to be false economy.
All compatibles are not created equal, there are a lot of poor quality compatables on the market as there are good quality ones. I've been using Jettec inks for about three years now & find them consistent in qualitly & output. I also do a lot less head cleaning now than when using genuine Epson cartridges. I also think that it's very important to test ink & paper combinations together.Most compatables are purchased on price alone without regard to print quality & often used with cheap low grade paper stock. I also only use Ilford paper, again consistant quality. Ilford have been in the paper manufacturing business for many years & have probobly forgotten more about making paper than most other manufacturers will ever know.
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Thanks for the Ilford paper tip!
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