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Old 20-08-2008, 19:48   #1 (permalink)
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I have the opportunity of a lifetime...

and am looking for some advice please, so I hope this thread is in the right place!

I'm currently negotiating the lease on a retail unit to use as an art gallery (a mix of media from one-off pieces of furniture through sculpture, ceramics, paintings, etchings, collagraphs, hats and photographs, all one-offs or very limited editions) with two offices behind which I will use to continue my 'day job' - I currently work from home and being realistic, I am assuming that I am unlikely to make enough money from the gallery in the first year to cover the rent. What I was hoping to do is to sell some of my own photos in there too

Does anyone have any advice, bearing in mind I have absolutely no experience at all at this sort of thing although a gallery has been a pipe dream of mine for years and I have been a keen collector of art for some time - this post probably makes me sound like a complete doofus heading for disaster in the first year, but the location is great, in a wealthy market town full of independent specialist 'boutique' shops (but no gallery)

Any thoughts? Someone has already suggested I seduce my bank manager but I would like to give my dream a shot...
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Old 20-08-2008, 20:07   #2 (permalink)
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Re: I have the opportunity of a lifetime...

Well, I think you've all the right ingredients: sense of humour, can spell 'independent', a seduceable bank manager, town who's population have fat enough wallets that need lightening, etc. Go for it, I say!
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Old 20-08-2008, 20:38   #3 (permalink)
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Re: I have the opportunity of a lifetime...

First of all, good luck!

I've never done anything like that, and all I can suggest is to put yourself in the position of a potential customer - either a local or a visitor/tourist. What would attract you into the gallery in the first place, and what would you consider buying?

If you're in a picturesque area, local scenes are usually popular with the tourists. Locals may not be so bothered about that, so think about what's fashionable and may appeal to anyone doing a makeover.

Have some smaller, cheaper items - still good quality - as tasters and for those who aren't so well off. Maybe one of their wealthier friends will see it and want something more expensive. The items you sell are adverts for your business.
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Re: I have the opportunity of a lifetime...

First off best of luck with your venture. I always have respect for people who chase their dreams

I can only share my experience from having shots in a combined Warwick Arts / IBM gallery for 6 months . Prints I had displayed were as follows :- Fine Art Monochrome at David James Williams

I priced them at £49.95 & only managed to sell 4 (#1, #3, #5 & #17). A previous exhibitor had shown prints of birds. Not my cup of tea, but selling them at £25 each , he sold 40.

On reflection although I got rave comments from people about my Mono shots, they are not always the kind of thing someone wants to hang on their wall at home. The bird shots by comparison appeal to a wider market.

So take time to understand what sells & at what price point. Local shots usually do well for example.

Let us know how you progress
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Old 21-08-2008, 09:42   #5 (permalink)
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Re: I have the opportunity of a lifetime...

I am sorry I can offer only one obvious suggestion. Do you know any gallery owners that you could get some practical advice from. If they were not in your area they may offer some help.

I do not know if we are typical customers but when we are on holiday we look round galleries a bit, especially when it is raining , but buy very little. What we do buy tends to be at the lower of the price range. Which seems to agree with the comment from Dave.

I think that you are dead right to keep your day job going to start with. I wish you all the best if you do decide to go ahead with this venture.
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Old 21-08-2008, 11:15   #6 (permalink)
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Re: I have the opportunity of a lifetime...

Your post really made me smile Sloeye + want to give you a big "thumbs up", so Good for you! Your proposed gallery sounds GREAT! I love the idea of the mix of things you will display - and hopefully sell!

Sounds like you have a good head for business, which is an excellent start

My main advice would be to talk to your bank - not only can they assist you financially, but they should - if you use a decent bank - have facilities to advise you in starting your own business too!

Also think about :

1. The books, who will do them - this is crucial from the start. A bookkeeper can save you money by giving sound financial advice. You don't want to be trying to launch a new business, stock the gallery, keep your day job AND do the books, and then still have time for yourself/family - which again is very important; the last thing you need is burnout. A bookkeeper will earn his/her keep

2. Marketing - contrary to popular belief the goods will not sell themselves. You have to put yourself about a bit, so to speak. Shower everyone you know with business cards. A website is essential - I'm not suggesting sell via web, but showcase your gallery for all the world to see. Run promotions. See if you can display some small stuff (pictures etc.) in the local shops (hairdresser, coffee shop etc.) with your details + gallery address, tel. no. etc. clearly marked.

3. Layout of gallery display is vital + I would strongly recommend that you get professional advice in this regard, as it can make or break a business.

And I back Dave's advice :

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Best of luck to you, I hope you will let us know how you get on
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Re: I have the opportunity of a lifetime...

Sorry cant offer any advice but good luck & hope all goes well.
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Re: I have the opportunity of a lifetime...

Well done for having the nuts to go for this!

The others have given you good advice, most of which is on the money (good sensible stuff from Charlotte as usual).

I would only add, and this is merely expanding on a point Charlotte touched on, and that is make your window display great and change it regularly. Most people are window shoppers until the point arrives when they are in the zone to step through your door with money to spend. A window display that stays static for more than a week or two stops being of interest. Even if you have a 'fixed' layout (professionally designed is best) that you can change easily with new/different pieces on a weekly basis (even if you only change a couple of items it is something different for the punters), this would be better than the display not changing from month to month.

Also, don't forget seasonal themes! Make your window interesting and it will attract continued attention.

Free advertising! make sure you leverage any free advertising. The first thing I always do when starting a new thing is get something in the local paper, a bit of text with a nice photo relevant to the cause. Editors are always hungry for bits and pieces to make papers interesting, espaceially local ones, and you will usually find they are happy to include something for free. Use this method every time you have a new exhibition or event at the gallery. Don't pay for advertising unless absolutely necessary!

Get a nice A4 poster done up and stick it on the public boards in libraries, public galleries, supermarkets (even wealthy people shop for food now and then!) and any where else that may have your target audience in it (golf courses, health clubs, etc).

Somewhere along the line you may need someone to man the gallery for you. Choose wisely! Nothing worse than some young dork who knows nothing about your products being in there when a possible customer wants to ask about a piece. It is worth paying someone with an interest in Art etc (part-time job for art student with a brain?) and who will take time to learn about the artists and work you are showing. Trust me, you won't have enough hours in the day to do all this yourself until the business is working.

Good luck!
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Re: I have the opportunity of a lifetime...

Thanks for all the great advice - I'm lucky in that I own all the shares in a limited VAT registered company through my 'day job' so my intention is to amend the Mem and Arts to cover retail and leave the rest to my Company Secretary (who also happens to be my very nice accountant!)

The ever-changing display is a good point - I want people to buy stuff while they can, rather than think that the same exhibits will be there in two months time, so hope to operate an eight/ten week cycle with various artists, and since a number of them are local or friends, am looking to have open evenings with a 'Meet the Artist' theme so they can take commissions (with a cut to me, natch!) I can see me doing a booze cruise to pick up cheap plonk I'm also thinking of local themes - Goodwood horse and car racing, polo at Cowdray Park, the local vineyard's vintage, cricket etc which hopefully will help flog some of my photos too.

Does anyone think that people would buy photos in A4 mounts to give as birthday cards? Lots of the other shops sell handmade cards, which I don't want to do, and since the prices of those are creeping up to a fiver, I wondered about selling prints that people could frame after the event...or is that naff?!

Fortunately there is a long row of five large windows (although it is a listed building, so they are georgian with small panes) so perfect for biographies/photos of other work etc about the artists currently there/coming soon/etc
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Re: I have the opportunity of a lifetime...

Pick the brains of other local galleries, on pretense of looking to sell your own work through them. Ask them what subjects sell well, sizes, price ranges etc. It's a dog eat dog world, so the more you can suss from the competition, the better
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I like the way you are thinking there Dave. Very creative
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Pick the brains of other local galleries, on pretense of looking to sell your own work through them. Ask them what subjects sell well, sizes, price ranges etc. It's a dog eat dog world, so the more you can suss from the competition, the better
Brilliant and so devious! I like your way of thinking very much
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Dave. I love #1,3,4,5,7,8,9 how much do they cost in Canadian?
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Sloeye, i say DO IT! I think everyone here had some very good advice for you. You may have already done this, but i think you should definately have some for sale on a website as well and post them on as many websites like this that you can (just for a bit of potential money) Good Luck!
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