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Old 08-10-2013, 13:20   #1 (permalink)
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I think it has worked.

Went to a "40s" event at Hughenden Manor last weekend, Part of it was the ice house that was converted to a photo recon and analysis bunker.
After "grounding" my mobility scooter getting in, I was confronted by a very interesting display of rooms and kit used by the RAF team during the war. OK so far, but the lighting was mixed 40watt tungston, and some nearly white lamps.
I tried several combinations and have posted the two extremes.
The first was 2 sec hand held, ( IS lens) elbows in on hips, breath in, let some out and slowly squeeze the shutter, ISO 100, 24mm, f 4.5, diffused flash at 25%, WB at daylight.
The second was 1/25, ISO 800, 24mm, f4.5, diffused flash at 25%, WB at daylight.
I think the latter was better and that is what I used for the rest of the images in there.
Just wondered what you thought of the long hand held, there is some minor shake evident, especially on the bike, but not too bad?

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Old 08-10-2013, 13:39   #2 (permalink)
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Re: I think it has worked.

2nd definitely better. Just wondering why you was down at 100 iso for the first image. The higher ISO's are there to be used, fair enough you may loose some quality but how big do you need to print?
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Re: I think it has worked.

The first has something about it - maybe the toning of the way it looks more "processed" - I'm sure others can come up with a better term.

The second looks clearer and more photo journal recording type shot.

Both have their merits.

Agree with Jake re the ISO
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Old 08-10-2013, 23:17   #4 (permalink)
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The first picture is best! when I am in these situations its 800 or 1600 ISO for me I try not to use flash at all! I think flash kills any sort of feeling a picture might have.......
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Re: I think it has worked.

The reason I used a low ISO for the first image was....... to see how it would work.
I admit I rarely go over 800 because I dont need to with the images I take.
I print at A3 if I do prints, and save to my laptop or a Sandisk cruzer blade to show to others.
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Atmosphere in #1 but sharpness in #2
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:32   #7 (permalink)
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Re: I think it has worked.

Agree #1 is full of character, (well done for a 2 second shot), so, yes, it worked for me , and the 2nd becomes just a record photo.
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Re: I think it has worked.

Thanks Markulous, I felt it needed a low level of diffused flash to raise the shadows a bit without over cooking the highlights and spoiling the "underground atmosphere" of being in a bunker rather than just a room.
Thanks Grease spot, I find with an IS lens and being on my mobility scooter I can get away with longer exposure times than if I was standing. (Has to be a plus to it somewhere).
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Re: I think it has worked.

Charles, Both pictures have captured well the atmosphere of the place, well taken under difficult circumstances.
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:08   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks Colin.
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Hi Charles,
I like the atmosphere of the first pic. I would have shot in raw at a high iso and tweaked the lighting in lightroom to give the shot the tone i wanted and keep everything sharp.Check out my latest kingfisher pics shot at 1100-1400 iso in wildlife section to see the difference iso makes for low light shooting

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Hi Steve, the first image was just a "lets see what happens" shot, the lack of sharpness is because it is hand held at 2 seconds, (tripods are not allowed), there are some pluses to being in a mobility scooter!

My other shots I took in there were all at 8oo ISO. I had to use 25% flash plus a difuser, as the lights down there were mixed, tungstone low wattage, quartz high wattage and nearly black areas of no light, so I tried to get some balance. All images were shot in RAW and converted in DXO.
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Re: I think it has worked.

unless blur is what I'm going for, I always say to myself that a grainy image is better than a blurry image. although I should say your first shot is very good for a 2 sec shutter.
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Thanks jayaruwan, yes I agree, a grainy image is better than a blurred one, this was a "lets see what happens" shot just for the fun of it. Charles.
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Charles, you mentioned using a diffuser ... was it a tungsten balanced one? It can make it a lot easier to get the overall white balance if you can use a diffuser balanced for the ambient colour temperature, even when you are shooting RAW.
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Re: I think it has worked.

for the first image maybe turning into a B/W i wonder how old and authentic it would look , the second is nice and sharp
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