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Old 23-11-2015, 21:30   #1 (permalink)
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Finally got to to Sandringham and go round the Sculpture trail, there are about 12 chainsaw sculptures, free to go round, the trail is opposite the car park.
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Old 24-11-2015, 00:16   #2 (permalink)
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Re: If You go down to the woods any day.....

Fun set Graham. But my only comment is that the D800 is capable of a lot more latitude in the exposure and some of the detail has been lost due to over-exposure - histogram goes off the scale to the right, while to the left the dark tones are missing. I have found that you can lower the exposure by a stop or 2 in woodland scenes, without losing detail in the shadows, which in itself is not unusual.

But another influence that causes unexpected overexposure, is the metering when using matrix metering and portrait view (not sure what you've used here as I can't read the EXIF data).

My findings with the D800 are that it tends to overexpose, sometimes quite a lot with wide angle lenses, when in portrait view - my guess is that the camera has only been calibrated (by Nikon - no facility for users ) to matrix meter in landscape, and when presented with a portrait it assumes that the [bright] sky is still along the long edge. If you are taking shots in portrait view you can do one of 2 things: either meter in matrix mode using landscape view, and then use that meter reading to take the photograph in portrait view, or use centre weighted, or possibly spot metering. This doesn't seem to be quite the same problem for my D300s.
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Old 24-11-2015, 11:42   #3 (permalink)
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Re: If You go down to the woods any day.....

An interesting set Graham, I wonder if the "problem" is over exposure, or your screen environment.
If the room is too bright it is often the case that you use too much "brightness" to get it to look right in the bright room. When I got my new screen I also got some mat black 3mm card and made a screen hood,
( the Eizo one was far too expensive). This keeps the light to the screen constant and avoids the problem.
Still a very interesting and unusual set.
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Old 24-11-2015, 16:06   #4 (permalink)

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GREAT SET, REALLY LIKE THE CARVINGS.
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An interesting set Graham, I wonder if the "problem" is over exposure, or your screen environment.
If the room is too bright it is often the case that you use too much "brightness" to get it to look right in the bright room. When I got my new screen I also got some mat black 3mm card and made a screen hood,
( the Eizo one was far too expensive). This keeps the light to the screen constant and avoids the problem.
Still a very interesting and unusual set.
I work in a dark room with just a desk lamp that does not shine on the screen only on the keyboard. As Charles said if I put on the room light the screen is not as easily worked with.
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Re: If You go down to the woods any day.....

Graham, Blackadder, Woody and Colin, firstly thanks for the comments, always appreciated.

Graham your comments are interesting, they were taken with a D810, not much difference except the missing filter from the D800. It was an overcast day and all the sculptures are under foliage so had to lighten them up when processing. I aways shoot in Matrix mode, perhaps I should experiment a bit more but usually adjust the 'chroma' in post so I can lift the subject out of any overpowering background.
Yes Blackadder, Eizo's are expensive, thought about buying one, and as I have in the past done framing thought about making one with mount card, perhaps also I should lower the brightness of the monitor, I do calibrate it twice a year.
I have just been printing out some photos and thought that although they looked good on the screen the print was much darker though, so investigated, the Mac was set at 1.8 Gamma while the icc was at 2.2, think that might have solved a problem, not printed anything yet.
Lastly on exposure, I tried my hand-held meter the other day, but that was over-exposing by about 2 - 3 stops! will have to look if it can be altered, not used it since it was repaired by Gossen 4-5 yrs ago, I always use to use a meter in my 'old' film days, and didn't seem to have that problem then, but I was exclusively in monochrome.
Just looked at the metadata and all were ISO1250 f/8 and around 1/60s, VR on, I had taken the tripod but! always a but, I didn't have the Arca-Swiss style quick release on the camera...doh! so had to hand hold hence the VR being on.
Thanks again for the input will try to act on it all.
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Yes must make an 'Eiso' shade, sitting here in the dark I have re-processed 2 of the pictures, the woodman and Orangutang, both adjusted -1EV and the the woodman 'Greens' were toned down a tad and again the Orangutang -1EV which made the sculpture too dark but lightened with adjusting the shadow slider.
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Re: If You go down to the woods any day.....

That's better Graham, as for calibrating the monitor I have an Eizo colour edge 24" and it self calibrates every 100 working hours. I love it, it is the best investment I have made, prints are spot on, what you see on the screen is what prints out ( printer is calibrated as well), I have two profiles set up for printing, Ilford Galerie prestige and Hahnemule textured fine art.
I always have the monitor on for half an hour to warm up before I do any adjustments to the image, and the only light in the room is a daylight bulb. Hope this helps, Charles.
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Thanks Charles, I have now gone over to using the Mac, no the iMac all in one not the professional type where the monitor is separate from the tower. I use that more than the windows machine now as was fed up with all the problems I was getting with the Windows things and I am not that good with hardware to put on Linux.
I have the Spyder monitor calibrater as well as the Spyder3 print SR, odd though as before we moved and the last Windows machine packed up I always printed from that and didn't have a problem.
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The Two edited images are a definite improvement .
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Thanks Colin, I do need to think a bit more when post processing.
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