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Old 30-09-2007, 19:14   #1 (permalink)
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It says it has 'C41 convenience'. I know this means it can be processed using colour processing chemicals, but does that mean you can't process it in black and white chemicals?
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Re: Ilford XP2 Super 400

Stick to C41 colour neg processing since this is what the film is designed for and thus will produce the best results that way. As far as I remember (someone correct me if wrong, it is a long time since I messed with XP film, stick to MS XP now ), you can process in normal BW chemicals (the first development stage of both processes are to produce the silver-halide image) but I wouldn't recommend it really. You end up with a silver-based neg whereas you should obtain a dye-based neg which will be much smoother grained.

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Re: Ilford XP2 Super 400

Unfortunately I don't have much choice, just wanted to see if I'd made a mistake, which it looks like I have. I can only process in BW dev cos that's all the school's got, but I guess I could take any rolls I use (if I actually use the film) to a developer....

Oh well Thanks for the info Les.
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Re: Ilford XP2 Super 400

I've not bought B&W film for, well, lets say a long time, but Ilford and Agfa were the choice for most people for most situations then. Kodak Pan F had very fine grain if you could cope with the 50 ISO!
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Re: Ilford XP2 Super 400

I believe that part of the reason Ilford XP2 was introduced was that very few high-street processors could handle conventional b/w film any longer, so here was a b/w film designed for standard C41 colour processing. Also it is supposed to give lower grain as Les said.

I've no idea if you can use b/w processing but it probably isn't recommended.
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Re: Ilford XP2 Super 400

I stopped using B&W film about 8 years ago but prior to that I used XP2 for many years and XP1 before that. When these chromgenic films were introduced by Ilford then Kodak, I do not remember any reference to "C41 convenience". At the time these films were introduced 20+ years ago the plus points were fine grain and high speed. The films could be processed by C41 chemical (colour negative) because XP1/2 is a dye based film similar to colour film. However, I do remember there were some subtle differences in times which is why sending such films to a high street processor was not a good idea. I always processed my own along with colour negative fim but using the recommended times.

Strictly, the developer is much the same as for a black and white film but after that you must use a colour Bleach/fix when links the dye and removes the silver image.

As far as I know you can still get home C41 chemicals.
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Re: Ilford XP2 Super 400

You could always use the old adage: when all else fails, do a test! Why not ring ilford or search the web for information about deving XP2 in normal BW chemicals

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Re: Ilford XP2 Super 400

Thanks for that Les. Seeing as the school provide film anyway (did anyone tell me?....no....), then I might try and take it back and switch for regular HP400, but thanks again for the info, very interesting!
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