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Old 02-04-2006, 03:34   #1 (permalink)
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Image backup

Just wondering how everyone goes about saving digital pictures? Do you save a copy to your hard drive every time? What kind of system do you have running?

I've found that my computer has slowed some since I have upgraded to the Nikon D50? Any suggestions, welcome.

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Old 02-04-2006, 04:57   #2 (permalink)
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After a day out with the camera I will do something like this...

1) Copy original files (mostly NEF, sometimes JPEG) from camera to my workstation or laptop.
2) Review the files and delete all the junk
3) What's left gets converted to jpeg (if neccessary) and resized/watermarked via a batch job in Photoshop if I intend to bulk upload to my site or I will work on individual files if I'm not uploading.
4) Archive off the files to DVD every now and again

I have around 2 Tb of diskspace at my disposal so I'm not exactly running short lol

When you say you that your PC has slowed up since you got your D50 - what do you mean exactly?

When is it slow?
What software are you running when it slows up?
What are the system specs?
Are you running XP?

I would suspect you need more RAM if you are editing photos when the PC slows down.
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Old 03-04-2006, 18:32   #3 (permalink)
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Ok thank you!
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Old 03-04-2006, 20:28   #4 (permalink)
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I have a system in place now where after my pictures have been put onto the pc, the rubbish removed and the good stuff processed, I then back up that folder to an external hard drive and periodically I also copy the folders of there to DVD storage as well.

I also check the DVD backups occasionally just incase they are becomming corrupt with time.

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Old 03-04-2006, 20:32   #5 (permalink)
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I just back up all the raw files and worked on images I've taken to DVD once a month.
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Old 03-04-2006, 20:42   #6 (permalink)
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Back up everything to external Hard Drive......even the rubbish.
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Everything lands in one directory on the computer - I then sort through the decent stuff and that gets saved in a different directory. My backup is to copy ALL the original stuff onto CD periodically. The laptop gets regularly backed up onto the desktop machine as well as it's got a relatively small hard drive compared to the desktop.
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Old 05-04-2006, 15:00   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone for your ideas!
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Old 05-04-2006, 15:05   #9 (permalink)
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Interesting thread. Currently I shoot RAW and JPG together although I'm not sure why yet. Probably because I have the RAW for processing and the jpgs go straight into Picasa for instant viewing for other people. However, the jury is still out on that method as I'm not sure of the wisdom of keeping duplicates of every shot.

However, all gets backed up DVD about once a month.

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Old 24-06-2006, 20:02   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Image backup

I think most people keep images on CD/DVD for long term storage, but beware, CDs and DVDs do have a 'shelf life'. On the simplyDV forum, people report that DVDs do deteriorate after about five years, so it is wise to occasionally copy and date them.

I think that burnt CD/DVDs are not as long lived as a commercial CD/DVD due to the different processing methods. Someone kept a DVD in the consevatory in a jewel case and in a rack. He noticed a curved 'bloom' on the disc and, yes, when he tried to play it, it would not play in either a DVD player, or on a computer. It seems that the light had gradually degraded the layer. Also the layer can de-laminate after a time - even branded/good makes. So be careful with your precious images.
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Re: Image backup

Your going to hate me, but I don't backup anything & I work in IT . I never get around to printing anything, so upload shots i like fro comment & that's it.

You lot have put me to shame now
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Old 24-06-2006, 22:14   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Image backup

That is disgracefull behaviour

Seriously mate, I'd get backing up... just think of all that mono work down the drain if the worst happens
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Old 24-06-2006, 22:36   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Image backup

I just set Iview Media Pro to catalogue - my bulk picture file on an external hard drive - about the last four years worth - it came up with 23776 thumbnails as I back up everything including "disk" of images prepared for 6 x 4s from weddings and the like that have gone in to Boots for printing. A job for those long wet summer days is to sort out all the duplicates - this is where "sort by name" comes in useful. From time to time I do save to CD or DVD and have decided to take just in RAW and not + jpeg. 250G drive soon gets filled and I thought I would never need more that my first 20meg drive!
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Re: Image backup

Forgot to say that it also includes collection of old Haverhill images and Village images going back over 100 years - some rescued from mouldering glass plates. Some of my own images scanned from negs over 50yrs old and still in good condition - will my DVD's last this long?
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Fangman - see my post re life of CD/DVDs earlier in this thread.
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Almost makes you want to copy all your favourite images and family record shots to film!
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Re: Image backup

Just when we thought we had cracked the storage problem too. Maybe the answer will lie in the technologies that are comming up. Perhaps flashcards when the capacity is large enough, or something not yet invented. Perhaps there is a place for prints after all
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hmmm that reminds me maybe i should back up a bit more often saying that i have 2 hard drives set up as a raid array so should be alright if the worst would happen but must get them on to DVD though
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Re: Image backup

I now use a second external HD for all my backups as well as CD/DVD discs. I have to admit that I have not burned any discs recently and have become more reliant just on the HD's. With HD's becoming bigger and cheaper it makes sense to go that route although the flip side to this is as always they can break or become corrupt as well. This is even worse if you are using the bigger drives (250-300gb) as you could potentially loose a massive amount of photos...you really don't know what to do for the best?
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I was reading recently that CDR's have a life of about 2 years on average. I've not checked any of my old backups to confirm this but if true then it doesn't bode well for people who are conscientious enough to do backups.


Source : - Data on CD lasts only two years
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Just having a sort out and checked a 5yr old CD and it was fine still!
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I use 2x 250gb external hard drives and back-up everything to those. They're getting a tad full so it'll soon be time for a clear out. Still not sure if I trust DVDs for long term back up... but can't really see a viable alternative.
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