The importance of RAW?

***Steve*** · 12-11-2005, 09:17

So are you saying that the S70 has raw and the s80 (which is the later model) doesn't?

Gemok · 12-11-2005, 10:35

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So are you saying that the S70 has raw and the s80 (which is the later model) doesn't?

yep thats what's happened the other major differences are they've gone from compact flash to sd cards and upped to megapixels from 7.1 to 8

Gandhi · 12-11-2005, 10:50

Exactly what were you looking for in the camera> And what sort of price range?

Does it have to be pure point & shoot? Pocket sized?

Gemok · 15-11-2005, 01:47

Gandhi - I'm after the impossible a pocket sized camera that lets me play with all the settings. I'm not bothered about zoom camera is mostly for party shots and landscapes when abroad. Powered by AA bats would be good as my accomadation abroad often doesn't have power outlets I can use and I always forget to charge the batts before a party so being able to buy a few duracel on the way is a godsend. budget of about £300 although less is better.

This is getting infuriating a possible contender for my next purchase is the fuji e900 (£250 at jessops) which is pocket sized takes RAW photos* and has a fair amount of manual control just waiting for a decent review of it.

* It takes Raw but you can't process them as raw LOL as far as I can find out the only software that'll read the Fuji RAW files is fuji's own software. The version they give you doesn't let you adjust anything so you may as well take jpgs and the proper version costs $200

Gandhi · 15-11-2005, 08:05

Personaly, I wouldn't get too hung up on the RAW thing. I know there's a thread going on here about the importance of RAW so you may find answers there. For photo's at parties with a compact, I'd always use Jpeg as the write times are just toooooo long otherwise. If I was you' i'd be looking at the panasonic fx9, fuji f10/f11, canon a620, or panasonic lx1. I know they reckon the sensor is noisy but they said that about my camera (the fz30) and you've seen some of my shots on here!

Arkady · 15-11-2005, 10:45

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Originally Posted by gandhi

Personaly, I wouldn't get too hung up on the RAW thing. I know there's a thread going on here about the importance of RAW so you may find answers there.

I think this is it....

15-11-2005, 11:49

Is it?

Arkady · 15-11-2005, 11:59

umm...let's see...Thread Topic:
"The importance of RAW"...
hmmm... sound like this is it...

Gemok · 15-11-2005, 12:06

Glad to see my topic title was clear ............. well for some of us at least.

I did read this earlier today that makes a reasonable case for not being overly fussed about raw and helped me better understand the advantages and limitations of the format

15-11-2005, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkady

umm...let's see...Thread Topic:
"The importance of RAW"...
hmmm... sound like this is it...

Oops, I read your post and thought "Uh oh he's forgotten to put a link in"

Silly me...

Arkady · 15-11-2005, 12:14

LOL...

This is it...
not, This is it... (here)

SammyC · 15-11-2005, 12:29

Interesting read there Gemok.

Gemok · 15-11-2005, 12:35

the bit I found weird was

Quote:

Here's a biggie: you do not have to photograph on the least compressed setting when you photograph JPG to get the best image quality! I normally photograph weddings and portraits of groups of 3 or less in medium JPG on my Canon 20D. You will not be able to tell the difference — regardless of how large you print — between the "high" and "medium" settings!

Why? Because you are still taking all the information from the sensor and it is being oversampled. I did not realize this until I spoke to my friend, Claude Jodoin. Claude is a technical editor and contributor to several professional digital imaging magazines, as well as an equipment tester/reviewer. He told me to try it on a wedding with 2 cameras. So I took (back then) 2 Canon 10D, and shot the altar groups twice: once with a camera set at High JPG and the other set at Medium JPG. I then returned to my studio and made a file 16x20 @ 268 dpi. I printed an 11x14 section of this image on my Fuji 4000 printer. The two prints were indistinguishable!

Gandhi · 15-11-2005, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkady

I think this is it....

ok. it was early, I was confused, I didn't know where I was, she said she'd respect me etc

:coat:

***Dave*** · 24-08-2006, 09:41

Could be of interest to new members re importance of RAW

**Markulous** · 29-08-2006, 19:55

As a new member, it's important to me - my camera only shoots RAW! But then that was one of the reasons for my getting the camera!

15-11-2005, 01:47	#34 (permalink)
Gemok Getting Comfy Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 245	Gandhi - I'm after the impossible a pocket sized camera that lets me play with all the settings. I'm not bothered about zoom camera is mostly for party shots and landscapes when abroad. Powered by AA bats would be good as my accomadation abroad often doesn't have power outlets I can use and I always forget to charge the batts before a party so being able to buy a few duracel on the way is a godsend. budget of about £300 although less is better. This is getting infuriating a possible contender for my next purchase is the fuji e900 (£250 at jessops) which is pocket sized takes RAW photos* and has a fair amount of manual control just waiting for a decent review of it. * It takes Raw but you can't process them as raw LOL as far as I can find out the only software that'll read the Fuji RAW files is fuji's own software. The version they give you doesn't let you adjust anything so you may as well take jpgs and the proper version costs $200 __________________ My Site - www.cashton.co.uk My stuff Fuji E900 Kyocera M410r (prosumer type thing) Some old P&S (inc one with a whopping 1.4 megapixels) :icon_eek:

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*Dave* Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15,615	Re: The importance of RAW? Could be of interest to new members re importance of RAW

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