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Old 13-06-2005, 21:10   #1 (permalink)
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Jacko verdict reached......

hes on his way to find his fate....
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Old 13-06-2005, 21:26   #2 (permalink)
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So whats you predictions then ?
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Old 13-06-2005, 21:35   #3 (permalink)
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i think he will get off..thats not to say i think hes innocent!
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or that i think hes guilty
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Old 13-06-2005, 21:39   #5 (permalink)
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I think he will be found guilty of something, but something relatively minor.
we'll find out soon I guess.
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Old 13-06-2005, 21:46   #6 (permalink)
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i think he will get off..thats not to say i think hes innocent!
I think he is guilty but will get off as well. A man doesn't does't pay millions to keep someone quiet if he is not guilty, if it was me i would have spent that money on proving them liars!!!
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Old 13-06-2005, 21:48   #7 (permalink)
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agreed!
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Old 13-06-2005, 21:48   #8 (permalink)
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I suspect he will be found guilty of giving alcohol to minors, but not guilty of the molestation charges !

That doesnt mean thats what i believe though ! Just what i suspect !
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Old 13-06-2005, 22:17   #9 (permalink)
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I suspect he will be found guilty of giving alcohol to minors,
thats count 6 and he has just recieved a not guilty verdict for that one

also not guilty on counts 1-7 as well

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Old 13-06-2005, 22:18   #10 (permalink)
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counts 8,9 also not guilty as well

he has just been found not guilty on all counts---he's a free man
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Not Guilty on all charges
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Old 13-06-2005, 22:19   #12 (permalink)
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Hmmmmmm
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Old 13-06-2005, 22:22   #13 (permalink)
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I think the old expression "no smoke without fire" applies here. I don't see how his trial could have been fair but given his history I think he got off, rather than there being no offences committed.
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Very odd, i would have thought he would have been done for SOMETHING here, but hey...all over till the next time!
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So many cynics in this world. Its depressing. The guy has issues and I reckon that family played on the publically to try and get money from him. There's evidence to support that they've done that before. Before everyone goes on about smoke and fires on behalf of MJ, the same can be said for the family making the alligations. Watching the jury talking kinda takes out all lawyer nonsense and makes it appear like a normal case.
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Old 14-06-2005, 13:43   #16 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but like what has already been said, which innocent person would pay £20 million ish pounds to stop someone going to court. The guy is a fruit cake with more than issues as problems and deserves all he gets. Any person with half a brain would not put themselves in the same position after being accused of this before. Then to admit on tv that he shares his bed with young boys….just asking for trouble….plying KIDS with drink….WHY? why would anyone do that? This is my opinion but MJ has never been of sound mind for a very long time, what with plastic bubbles (not the monkey) dangling his child over the banister, denying plastic surgery. This guy spends 3 times more than he makes each year and is in millions of pounds worth of debt, he sleeps with young kids and plies them with alcohol….why is the bank not on his case? Selling his possessions if it was you or I…..Why has he not been charged with supplying alcohol to a minor…it makes me sick that once again had it of been Joe public they’d have been hung drawn and quartered but people in the know, so called super stars get away with things like this. America needs to wake up and smell the coffee….
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it makes me sick that once again had it of been Joe public they’d have been hung drawn and quartered but people in the know, so called super stars get away with things like this.
Super stars like Gary Gliter...
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Old 14-06-2005, 16:52   #18 (permalink)
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Super stars like Gary Gliter...
Was tried, found guilty and then did a runner after his time in prison.

I don't see the connection with that and Jacko paying millions to keep something from going to court?
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Super stars like Gary Gliter...
Was tried, found guilty and then did a runner after his time in prison.

I don't see the connection with that and Jacko paying millions to keep something from going to court?
I should have quoted the relevant part there. If you could and were innocent, would you pay someone off or goto court and have your entire life put under a microscope infront of the world?
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No smoke without fire? I agree on this occasion.

The Jury have gone on record as saying there is credible evidence that he has molested boys in the past but they were trying him for what happened now.
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Old 14-06-2005, 17:07   #21 (permalink)
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I should have quoted the relevant part there. If you could and were innocent, would you pay someone off or goto court and have your entire life put under a microscope infront of the world?
Personally I hate blackmail or being put in a position by anyone. If I had not done the crime I would have been very vocal about it and insisted it went to court to clear my name and keep everything in the open. After that was done I would then pursue the person who had tried to put me in a position until I got recompense for the inconvenience, invasion of privacy and all costs. That way others that may see me as an easy target in the future would probably consider the situation differently.

Obviously If I was guilty I would get my people to pay off the others to keep it quiet
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I'm sorry but like what has already been said, which innocent person would pay £20 million ish pounds to stop someone going to court. The guy is a fruit cake with more than issues as problems and deserves all he gets. Any person with half a brain would not put themselves in the same position after being accused of this before. Then to admit on tv that he shares his bed with young boys….just asking for trouble….plying KIDS with drink….WHY? why would anyone do that? This is my opinion but MJ has never been of sound mind for a very long time, what with plastic bubbles (not the monkey) dangling his child over the banister, denying plastic surgery. This guy spends 3 times more than he makes each year and is in millions of pounds worth of debt, he sleeps with young kids and plies them with alcohol….why is the bank not on his case? Selling his possessions if it was you or I…..Why has he not been charged with supplying alcohol to a minor…it makes me sick that once again had it of been Joe public they’d have been hung drawn and quartered but people in the know, so called super stars get away with things like this. America needs to wake up and smell the coffee….
Sorry for the rant.
I totally agree with you there Ken!!!!! Anyone in this world who has kids, knows something is going on in MJ's home and it's absolutely disgusting that money will keep him out of jail!! It's always been my belief that when someone "overcompensates" for something, it's just the exact opposite. He goes on a tad bit too much for my liking about how he loves' the children, and wants them to come and play at his house, and puts that image out there that he just adores kids and want's to save them all. pffft We all see how he treats his own kids,pffffft!!! Martha goes to jail and he doesn't? Give me a friggin break!! Goes to show you what people seem to value most in life.

He is what he is, and everyone knows it! He may be free in his own little world but I don't think he feels that way one bit! He deserves everything he get's in my opinion. Try selling an album now buddy, LOL

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Who in their right mind believes and then says on national television that sharing your bed with a minor is “the most loving and natural thing a person can do” ? It is if you are the childs parent and they cant sleep at night and come to you for comfort but as a "stranger" its just not on and is probably just the tip of a very seedy iceburg.

I think that sums it up really, he is not of sound mind or rather lives in his own world according to his own rules and beliefs. He was abused as a child and has never know a normal life with normal values.

Some people believe they are above the law and that makes it easier to justify their actions, power and money corrupt, in many ways.
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OOOOhhhhhhhh lively debate!
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Surely they can lock him up under some sort of mental health act. [smilie=n:
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Try selling an album now buddy
I can understand why people bought his before all of this controversy.
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Personally I hate blackmail or being put in a position by anyone. If I had not done the crime I would have been very vocal about it and insisted it went to court to clear my name and keep everything in the open. After that was done I would then pursue the person who had tried to put me in a position until I got recompense for the inconvenience, invasion of privacy and all costs. That way others that may see me as an easy target in the future would probably consider the situation differently.

Obviously If I was guilty I would get my people to pay off the others to keep it quiet
You would have no problem with every little dirty secret in your life being twisted and used against you to demonstrate how "sick" you were? Just for a minute imagine you believe MJ is innocent. Would you want to go through what he did? Having the entire world seeing your porn collection as he did?

A lot of people often say "Would you leave your kids with MJ?". Well to be fair, what celeb would you leave them with? Robbie?

If we forget about the past, does anyone else here think that he's been taken advantage of by this family? That they were just trying to get money out of him like the last one?
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Didn’t mean to start a war here, just my view and it doesn’t necessarily have to be MJ or GG. A guy in your street builds a play park in his back garden, invites all the young kids round, has a couple stay over every now and then, then starts giving them alcohol….you would go down and knock his head clean off his shoulders, I know I would.
And I’m not in any way saying this kid or his parents are or were not just after money but after the first allegation MJ is playing with fire and will inevitably get burnt every now and then GUILTY or NOT.
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If you could and were innocent, would you pay someone off or goto court and have your entire life put under a microscope in front of the world?
He put his life under a microscope long before now and doing documentaries such as he did with that Martin Bashir bloke only contributed to his demise….paying someone off like he did doesn’t mean a damn thing to him…it’s not his money he is spending…anyway the question of going to court…ER let’s think…go to court and prove my innocence and maybe a couple of misdemeanours come out or pay them off and let everyone presume I’m guilty…easy go to court.
Mud sticks and this won’t be the end…mark my words…this won’t be the end.
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I'm pleased to see this case chucked out. Would they have even tried to bring this case in the first place with the scant evidence available if it was just some ordinary Joe? I think not. The might of the US Justice System has trawled every bit of crap they could find to try to support their case against Jacko and it simply wasn't enough to remove any reasonable doubt from the minds of the jurors. It isn't a case of money getting the guy off at all. If he wasn't who he is the case simply wouldn't have been brought in the first place. He made a huge mistake in paying off the first kid, but I believe that's all it was - a miistake - and after that he became a target for parents out to make money out of him.

Of course it's weird to have kids in your bed, but he is weird we all know that, and the most he is accused of is 'Inappropriate touching' when, if we are to believe his accusers, he had every opportunity to commit actual buggery if he is really inclined that way. Unlike 'inappropriate touching, buggery would quite possibly be supported (or not) by medical evidence. :wink:

Don't get all het up about some Superstar 'getting off' - put yourself in his shoes and ask yourself if you'd really relish the prospect of facing 20 years in jail on the evidence of that sorry procession of witnesses!! .
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The fact is he was charged with a number of offences. Twelve jurors considered the evidence presented for the charges and unanimously found there was insufficient proof to convict on those charges. Just because it may not be a popular decision doesn't invalidate it.

We do not know all the facts, we can only speculate on the basis of what we get fed by the gutter media. The system may not be perfect but it's the only one we (they) have.
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