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Old 11-02-2009, 15:51   #1 (permalink)
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Laptop screen calibration?

There seems to be an awful lot of information regarding monitor calibration and it's making my head spin!

Iíve been trying to read up about it as my prints are consistently coming back darker than I see them on screen. In an effort to combat this Iíve been lightening the images prior to having them printed but this isnít always successful and I'm getting mixed results (depending on where I have them printed). Iíd really like to get it sorted.

From what I have read it sounds as if I could have laptop screen set too bright. However when Iíve looked at information such as this (link posted by Dabhand16 in another thread) or this I can see the full range shown in black/white point scale.

Therefore am I right in thinking I need to calibrate monitor gamma?
This link suggests using Adobe Gamma or QuickGamma but (if Iíve understood correctly) as itís an LCD screen itís not going to work as I can only adjust brightness and not contrast? SoÖ Iíd need use (purchase) a hardware calibration device?

When looking at my display settings in Control Panel (Settings -> Advanced -> Color Management) I have no color profile associated with the device. I can click add and get a list of options (including sRGB Color Space Profile.icm). Forgive my total ignorance of such things - would associating a colour profile help?

Camera is set to sRGB colour profile. Saving images in Photoshop also set to sRGB.

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Re: Laptop screen calibration?

sRGB is an image (photo) colorspace/profile rather than a monitor profile, although sometimes you do get monitors profiled to sRGB. However, that's no guarantee that they display accurate colours or that the black/white points and gamma are correct.

I used to be sceptical about hardware profilers but I've recently become a convert, and get on well with the Spyder3 Pro. Personally I would use the laptop's brightness control to adjust this to a comfortable level before using the Spyder, and then let it sort out the rest. I think it's worth the £100 or so to save a lot of messing around and uncertainty.

Remember that laptop screens can have a narrow viewing angle - especially vertically - so you have to be looking at 90į for it to be as intended.

That won't sort out your printer, and if you like you can buy something like the Spyder3 Print to calibrate that, but I'd start by doing the screen.
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Re: Laptop screen calibration?

My laptop, being a cheapie, does not have contrast control, only brightness. My desktop has an LCD monitor and you can adjust just about everything, including the colour.

In Photoshop you can soft proof you image - view menu>proof setup. If you change this around you might find this will give you a screen image more like your prints, but it is my guess that the screen is probably set too bright.
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Re: Laptop screen calibration?

The thing is that you really need a reference point - something you are pretty sure is right by an absolute standard. You could perhaps adjust your monitor to display like your prints, but they could both be (equally) wrong by comparison with something that is correctly calibrated. Calibrating and profiling the screen is a good first step, and this then becomes the reference with which everything else can be compared.
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Re: Laptop screen calibration?

I consistently suffer with prints from my Canon IP8500 that have a red cast and with my lack of computer knowledge struggle like mad, to get rid of it,

Why should a reasonably intelligent guy have so with much trouble with computer technology, that many of you guys can adapt to in your sleep.
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