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Old 03-09-2009, 06:50   #1 (permalink)
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Question The Law / Rule of Thirds...

I was wondering if you could advise me about the importance of the Law / Rule of Thirds given that sometimes it is not always possible to follow this rule when photographing action sports such as football (for example)...

I feel that at times a photographer may only have one opportunity to get the shot and to worry about this rule may result in missing the shot...

What do you think, is it a rule that must always be followed?

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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

Many sports are fast and unpredictable but I find that most of the time I can crop the image to apply the 'rule of thirds'.

I don't think the rule has to be always followed but that's my own personal opinion
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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

P-E has nailed it

There was also the (possibly unwritten) 'rule' of 'A bit of red' too. if you could get that on the third you had made it. Difficult, I know if you are shooting landscapes. (or mono)
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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

My only rule is 'Whatever Works'! Often it even falls on the 1/3rds
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:14   #5 (permalink)
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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

The rule of the thirds is something you learn and then forget! if you can put it into practice with a sports picture then the picture will look better, but of course this is not always possible, you have a look at some of the best sports pictures by pro photographers and you will find all the best pictures are very carefully taken and balanced. Not only is it just sports photography but that goes for any type of photography, but there is an old saying which is quite true, rules are made to be broken!
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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

Just to add some humour to this thread, here's my favourite sports shot (I didn't take it) and it doesn't follow the rule of thirds.

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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

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...is it a rule that must always be followed?
No.

Generally speaking you will get a better balanced picture using thirds, but it dosn't work for everything. Sometimes breaking the rules works best.

It's like everything else, it's down to personal preference.
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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

Thats right!!!!!!!!!but it has impact dont you agree! I wish the picture was mine.
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Just to add some humour to this thread, here's my favourite sports shot (I didn't take it) and it doesn't follow the rule of thirds.



That's a great shot. It does follow one of the rules often used my the old masters of portrait paintings ie the perpendicular bisector should pass through one of the eyes.
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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

I was always taught that 1/3 "rule" is guidance and certainly not "Law"

The fact is that it does work for most images but for some it does not. As P-E said, you can always crop later given that in the heat of the moment you may not achieve the 1/3 you are looking for.

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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

Erm... what IS the rule of thirds?....

I go for "What looks right", and am happy to crop in editing if I get too much unbalance to the shot.
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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

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Erm... what IS the rule of thirds?....
Here is an easy to understand external link that should show you... Erm... Basic Photography. The Rule of Thirds.

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Here is an easy to understand external link that should show you... Erm...
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Thanks dean, but I was perhaps being a little too sarcastic?..

I understand the principal, but dont use it, as I absolutely despise the process of having to "Pose" shots.... I need to understand the rule book, but that is only as long as the rule book understands me, and doesnt mind me totally ignoring it when it suits me..

I have got too many "Lucky" shots by just catching something in passing on full auto mode to ignore the "Shoot first think later" style I seam to use, where I will take a better shot if its still there by the time I have thought about what manual settings will work...

I am learning quickly... but still, if something catches the corner of my eye, I dont have the ability to think manual as I swing the camera to catch it... the camera thinks faster than I do, so why not use that technology I have at my fingertips?...
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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

yet i think, by thinking about the rule you can fool the eye to think it's a great shot.. why do some shots encourage the eye to think.. wow... nice shot . it's because the rules have been implicated .. most of the time.
there have been some shots on here that have recieved, a somewhat tipid reveiw, when all indeed what was needed was the....the factor of aplying the rules ,not in all cases i must state... so the rules can be broken but they are there for a purpose ...... and i try to adhere to them as much as i can.... mainly because i'm photoghragher not an Artist
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... so the rules can be broken but they are there for a purpose ......
Of course....
But I tend to think along the lines of "Knowing when to break them", and by how much, as in, they are guidelines.....?
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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

I don't think that the thirds rule is either a rule or law. How many times have you looked at one of the photos you have taken, cropped it to how you think it looks best and then if you study it, you have done it to the 'third'. I think most photographers have enough of a creative eye to see what is balanced in a photo. Unless you have the a tripod and have time to 'pose' the photo, the 'rule of thirds' does not even come into it. I think its more a sub-concious act based on balance and look rather than applying a rule or law.
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Re: The Law / Rule of Thirds...

Just to add my little bit, ive been reading up on the 'rule of thirds' and do find it helpful, when composing a shot. However I would not put it in the catergory as 'Law', but would look at it being more as guidance when producing that all important shot. Just as Clanny as demonstrated, nice one
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