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Old 15-09-2008, 23:12   #1 (permalink)
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London Eye at night

Hi All, I have recently taken some night shots of the London Eye but feel I can improve as I shot them on 'nightime auto' mode. Can someone please suggest settings with my Nikon D40. I have 18-200mm Nikor VR Lens and 70-300mm Nikor VR Lens, polirizor and ND grad filters.
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Re: London Eye at night

I'd try: tripod, no filters, VR off, expose for light but use some exposure compensation (try -1.0)

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Thanks, any idea of aperture?
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Re: London Eye at night

I'd try about f/8-16 depending on resulting shutter speeds (as I'm unsure how bright it's likely to be)
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I'd try about f/8-16 depending on resulting shutter speeds (as I'm unsure how bright it's likely to be)
Just remember that the London Eye rotates when in use (even at night) so using F8/16 at night will probably capture a small amount rotation in the results (due to the amount of time the shutter will need to be open) which could either look good or just make it look like a blurred shot.

I would try to keep the shutter speed quite fast, anything under 1 sec should give good results .5 sec would probably be even better.
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Re: London Eye at night

I was thinking of after it had closed (20:30 until 30 Sep and then 19:30)
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But don't they switch off the lights on it when it closes?
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Re: London Eye at night

I'm sure I've seen shots from much later, so I'd say they don't switch off the lights (but I can't be certain).

Of course the real answer is to go at closing time as you can get both types of shot, as well as the one if they do reduce the number of lights!
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Re: London Eye at night

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Try turning the camera and lenses to manual. Use a tripod, please remember that you need a license to have a camera on a tripod on the South Bank.
F8 around 3 seconds is a good place to start, whatch the white light, I would take images of white light and couloured light and bring together in photoshop.
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Re: London Eye at night

Oh, yes, turn AF off!

Can I ask why you set camera to manual and where does this license thing comes from? I've seen it a couple of times and the only thing of which I'm aware is the need to get a licence to demonstrate (applies to an area encompassing both sides of the river but is for demos). There's also the need to get permission if you're shooting from private land (and the area immediately around the Eye is private) but not a licence
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Re: London Eye at night

If you turn the camera to manual you will get more control over the light, at night there is more light than you think, shooting at long exposures it is better to set the F stop and change the time yourself, as said shoot different shoots for the various lights and bring together.

Everything from Westmister bridge all the way down the south bank is private property or belongs to the bourough council. To shoot with a tripod standing on the south bank you need to get a license from the council. There are some men in black who march you off. You can shoot off the bridges or the other side of the river. I have been march off twice now.

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If you turn the camera to manual you will get more control over the light, at night there is more light than you think, shooting at long exposures it is better to set the F stop and change the time yourself, as said shoot different shoots for the various lights and bring together.
Why do I get more control over light than using AV and Exp Comp, which is what I've always used (well, until I need more than -2.0 as in the useless Canon setting!)?

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Ahh, right, thanks! Seen reference to people not allowed to use tripods but no definitive reason!
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Why do I get more control over light than using AV and Exp Comp, which is what I've always used (well, until I need more than -2.0 as in the useless Canon setting!)?



Ahh, right, thanks! Seen reference to people not allowed to use tripods but no definitive reason!

I can't see the point of shooting AV when you have manual settings, Try ISO100
F20 and about 25 seconds
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Re: London Eye at night

Thanks for all the advise, seemed to have opened a can of worms with 'license to shoot'.Has anyone got a photo of the eye they can post with the settings used?
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Thanks for all the advise, seemed to have opened a can of worms with 'license to shoot'.Has anyone got a photo of the eye they can post with the settings used?
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You mean like this?

Or this, or this?
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Re: London Eye at night

Thanks, yes more like 2 and 3rd 'This' I have a similar one to the first 'This' however I feel it is too grainy, maybe noise. As a newbie I'm still learning photography and PS, maybe being too heavy handed in PS?I've just received my 'Gorilla pod' so will try another shot over the next couple of weeks, weather permitting.Can you please tell me how I attach a pic to a thread so as someone can give advise on what I have produced so far?
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I can't see the point of shooting AV when you have manual settings
Ummm, why on earth would I want to guess at the settings when I have an extremely accurate instrument to give me very precise readings? Getting the precise exposure will then be only be 1 or 2 stops (and I find that I can get it right most times - but don't try and outguess the meter!).

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Use http://www.pixalo.com/community/site...oad-12056.html and you can then post it in here
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thanks Markulous, I think I will have to spend some time re-sizing as explained in the guidelines.
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Ummm, why on earth would I want to guess at the settings when I have an extremely accurate instrument to give me very precise readings? Getting the precise exposure will then be only be 1 or 2 stops (and I find that I can get it right most times - but don't try and outguess the meter!).



Use http://www.pixalo.com/community/site...oad-12056.html and you can then post it in here
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Just remember that the London Eye rotates when in use (even at night) so using F8/16 at night will probably capture a small amount rotation in the results (due to the amount of time the shutter will need to be open) which could either look good or just make it look like a blurred shot.

I would try to keep the shutter speed quite fast, anything under 1 sec should give good results .5 sec would probably be even better.
I assume you are talking about daylight shots for those shutter speed right? or otherwise you need ISO1600 or 3200 if not 6400 to get enough light with such a short time?!

The below shot used 70 seconds explosure time... although I have to say it's a little bit over cooked... but anything below 10 seconds seems too short from my experience. correct me if i'm wrong!



The below shot was taken with 1/30s... my virgin daylight shot of london eye... could have done with smaller aperature and possibly longer shutter speed... f/9 seems too big to make everything sharp...

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I took a few nighshots of the London Eye a couple of months ago - take a look at my flickr site here and take a look at the exif data, you should get an idea of the settings I used. (I don't profess they are great )





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Interesting!! I didn't realise there would be enough light for short explosure time!! Nice one ;-)
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Here's one I did a few years ago...

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Now that is nice...
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Steve, this is the reason I posted the Q, excellent work,can you tell me what settings where used and can I re-create this on a Nikon D40?
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Thanks Jag, they are sharper than what I have at the minute, I'm aiming for the continuous light look, not sure of photography term
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