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Old 22-12-2010, 18:49   #1 (permalink)
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Quick question on macro photography, which I really really want to learn real well, and love to do. If I use a reversing ring or a coupling ring with another lense. Which is better. A lense with or without a appature ring, and why? 50mm f/1.4 being reversed. Thank you for any feedback. I have so much gear and no skills.
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Old 22-12-2010, 20:10   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Macro question

I don't do macro, so someone who does will advise you better - but the lenses with no aperture ring rely on the camera to set the aperture. If you reverse the lens you will have no means of changing the aperture. This might not be an issue, but I think that you will need to get all of the depth of field that you can, and that means stopping down.

Extension tubes will (I think) allow aperture adjustment and some might also allow exposure control, although I think that manual is best for macro from what I've read.
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Old 22-12-2010, 20:51   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Macro question

I've messed around with all the usual things over time but my macro photography has never been easier or more successful than it has since I bought a macro lens, by that I mean 1:1 ratio.
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Steve, I see in your equipment list you have a Raynox 250, I would advise you to persevere with it , even if you only get one in 50 keepers, actually that is the norm for this lens so don't get disheartened to soon.
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Steve, I see in your equipment list you have a Raynox 250, I would advise you to persevere with it , even if you only get one in 50 keepers, actually that is the norm for this lens so don't get disheartened to soon.
I would echo that. Marcin used to use a Raynox with a bridge camera and got fantasic shots.
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Would this lense NIKKOR AF-S 105MM F2.8G IF ED MACRO and this KENKO EXTENTION TUBES, RAYNOX DCR250 all together be over kill. I do have a R1 speed light. how about a bellows? To big and clumbsy without a studio? Thanks for all the replies. I see alot of sweet macro pics. on this site. I would love to do the same. If I dont have the right equipment purchesing it is not a problem. the skill to use it is. Going on vac. for a week and a half tomarrow. hope to try my hand at alot of different things. (Thanks.) HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!Back after the holidays.
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Re: Macro question

if I may, I would suggest you to play with what you already have until you get the hang of it. you may not get true life sized 1:1 macro shots, but buying too much equipment could overwhelm you. maybe it's just me. but that's my 2 cents. and I too am a noob in the world of photography. seeing the masters here already shared their wisdom with you, all I need to say is good luck and happy holidays
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See my Christmas Tale in the Macro Section
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Old 25-12-2010, 22:07   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Macro question

I definitely echo the above advice: a step at a time will potentially save you time and effort - and get to grips with, at the very least, the basics at each stage. That, in turn, will highlight any deficiencies or ambitions. More importantly, you're likely to enjoy it all the more!
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Re: Macro question

Play with what you have.... Good advice.
Some EXCELLENT advice I got on here, and am quite happy to pass along...
I have a zoom lens, and a Tripod.
Stand further back and use the optical zoom to "Enlarge" what you are trying to photograph...

I tried it, and got some pretty amazing results for my fist try...

It also allows you to put other forms of lighting into the equation, I have used domestic spot-lights to get good results.
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Re: Macro question

Ive went back to the old way to to learn as well as digital, the old way M42 the 58MM seems to be better still from what ive picked up, but still havent got round to it, xmas has got in the way.
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Re: Macro question

one or two home made reflectors wouldn't hurt. make sure you cover your subjects from the wind if you are photographing flowers etc. use the tele end of your lens. use a tripod. stop down. shoot RAW. most importantly enjoy the results even if it sucks big time
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Would this lense NIKKOR AF-S 105MM F2.8G IF ED MACRO and this KENKO EXTENTION TUBES, RAYNOX DCR250 all together be over kill. I do have a R1 speed light. how about a bellows? To big and clumbsy without a studio? Thanks for all the replies. I see alot of sweet macro pics. on this site. I would love to do the same. If I dont have the right equipment purchesing it is not a problem. the skill to use it is. Going on vac. for a week and a half tomarrow. hope to try my hand at alot of different things. (Thanks.) HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!Back after the holidays.
Overkill, too dam right. All you need is the raynox on any lens, start about 6 inches away and very slowly move the camera towards your subject, try different settings but don't use the macro setting, read the raynox instructions and rig up a reflector to throw the light from your flash about 2 inches in front of your lens, using flash helps to get a sharp image,
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Had a go with my raynox , first pic about 50mm ,f 10 with flash.
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second pic zoomed in to about 150mm, other settings the same
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Last one 400 mm, as you can see there is great magnification but depth of field is very shallow, these shots were hand held and perhaps i should have used manual instead of aperture priority.
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Grounded, Good Start!....

However, is it me, or in the case of pic 2, the background is in focus, but the subject not?....

Some things to try.
If you are staying with a limited depth of field, using manual focus, go for the multi-shot approach on manual focus, moving the focus slightly with each shot.

I find this works wonders... we have the ability with Digital to take a few shots and only keep the ones that work, so taking 20 shots of the same thing is quite useful, and educational if you make slight changes "Just to see what happens"....
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Don't think multi shots will work for me, best I get for depth of field is manual on f/11with flash, Tripods are useless in the field, but a Mono-pod is a good steadier, It's just a matter of perseverance, and a good pair of eyes.
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I can certainly say that some my best bug shots are with the use of a tripod, very rarely with flash (sometimes very light fill-in) and I'm working on focus stacking (not the easiest to do and ideally with tripod and rail - but the results can be amazing!). A shallow DOF can work well but it relies on getting the exact best focus point - again not always easy

But, to come back to my last point, it's always better to master one technique before going on to try another!
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Keep a log of each shot, the ones that dont work often tell you more than the ones that do.

I work with Tripod and Monopod, its always been a case of if it works, use it..?
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