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Old 23-05-2011, 20:47   #1 (permalink)
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Am thinking about buying a new slider & have nailed it down to 2, Velbon Mag slider or Manfrotto Micro plate, anyone got any advice on these 2, cheers simpbow
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Old 23-05-2011, 22:08   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Macro slider

A member of our Club does macro photography and demonstrated focus stacking a couple of weeks ago. He has the manfrotto Micro plate and was recommending it. I thought it looked good quality and a precision piece of kit.

I broke a connector on my Manfrotto Tripod recently (my fault) but was pleased that it was easy to order a replacement part which came with tool and full instructions. I will certainly buy the manfrotto Micro Plate once I get into macro; I need to buy the lens first.

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Old 23-05-2011, 23:27   #3 (permalink)
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Have Manfrotto Tripod myself Dave & v.pleased with it, havent seen either of the 2 sliders though
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Use neither, instead I went for one of the cheap Chinese copies which works very well
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I use the Velbon. Excellent quality & fine adjustment. Very sturdy. Had a cheap ebay option - which is awful. Coarse thread and not good with weight at angles (slips).

The advantage ( I believe ) is that the it has two way adjustment - side to side and front and back.

The manfrotto option only goes front to back. I think you may be able to stack them up to achieve the same.
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Cheers guys had the cheap ebay one to as you say Chrisa, wasn't fussed on it either
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just received a Velbon Slider and I'm very impressed with the smooth operation and two way adjustment not forgetting it does split in two if you only need one plane of adjustment and want to save some weight

Now to find something that doesn't move - I might look for James Bonds brother, Basildon Bond - I understand he was stationary

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So am i most of the time to cheers jake
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Just want to know if am right here, am swaying towards the Velbon as the other would work out x2 the price if it was the same set up as Velbon, question can i still put manfrotto QR adapter & plate on to the Velbon?
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Re: Macro slider

Yes - My tripod is a manfrotto. I have their quick release plates - you just screw that into the slider ( instead of the camera). On the slider mount theirs another screw - which goes into the camera base.

So you can mount the slider with the quick release. Obviously you then have to mount the camera onto the slider via the screw. But if you're going to use the slider - the few seconds that takes make little difference.

You should be able to see the screw fit in this photo of my one.



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Don't know anything about the Manfrotto QR but what I can tell you is it has two 3/8" mounting holes in the base already fitted with 1/4" adapters that you can remove if you need to



Chris got in before me :-) glad to see you know your notepaper Chris
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Thanx for replies guys 1 now ordered
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Chris. Just checked out you macro website. Great shots and very informative. Now a 'favorite' so I can refer back without coming here and sounding daft.
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Thanks Russell.. Glad you like it.
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Arrived today all i need now is this bl***y wind to stop blowing
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[QUOTE=chrisa;331511]I use the Velbon. Excellent quality & fine adjustment. Very sturdy. Had a cheap ebay option - which is awful. Coarse thread and not good with weight at angles (slips).



Same here,plastic thingy that keeps sliping, buy stuff to last and save money.
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After using it now a couple of times i would look back
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Of course, you may have another method for breaking wind...
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Know 3 or 4 good positions
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The manfrotto option only goes front to back. I think you may be able to stack them up to achieve the same.
I saw a couple different ones, and even one that is more of what I expected. The 454 is twice as much (about the same as the Velbon,) and I would likely get the Velbon you recommended if this is not sufficient.

I found one called the Bogen / Manfrotto Slide Bar with a total range of 80mm. The guy said he sold hundreds like this, and gets favorable comments. It has more range than you get with the CHEAP ones you warned against. This one is priced a little more than those cheap ones, and I like that...

I cannot tell if it has a Quick Release Connection, or exactly how it mounts on the tripod head. That could be a problem, but for what I'll have saved, I'll MAKE a mounting!

If this is far from what you were suggesting, I'd appreciate you letting me know. Otherwise, I guess I'll need to get this one. It seems to be a good name, and good spec's.

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Not sure on that one exactly - I've not seen it personally. It may be best if you can see it/try one out. That would let you see how it connects to the tripod. I would expect that it may well work ok, though not sure how the slider is adjusted.

For macro work you really want (for ease of focusing - whilst looking through the viewfinder) an easy way of adjusting the focus. The velbon works on fine gears that you move by twiddling/adjusting knobs on the side. Am wondering if the one illustrated is just a slider that moves back and forth and you lock in position, which may not be as user friendly for macro work. Not sure on the price of it so not sure how close this following one is out. It is cheaper than the velbon price you quoted.

Here's one that does have a similar geared adjustment to the velbon - maybe similar to that one you've highlighted, but I'm not sure from the image above if that bogen/manfrotto slider has geared adjustments. I picked it from a well known US store.

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Am wondering if the one illustrated is just a slider that moves back and forth and you lock in position, which may not be as user friendly for macro work...

Here's one ... from a well known US store.

Manfrotto 454 Micrometric Positioning Sliding Plate - 454 B&H
YES, the 454 is more like the Velbron, and you are likely correct about the one I found being just a slider, and not screw-adjusted.

This 454 is LESS than the prices I was able to find for it, and is certainly worth considering. If there was no more price difference than I had found, I'd go for the Velbron.

Thanks for the useful input. Time may come when I can justify the $80 to $120 for one of these options. At least I know how to NOT waste money for something that is not what I need.

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Re: Macro slider

I just bought a barely used Velbon Mag Macro Slider and it seems to work well. I haven't had a chance to go out and try it too much but so far it seems well built and worth the low cost. I've got a friend with a cheap eBay thing from China that pretends to be a macro slider and it is pretty sad... course adjustment, flexes with the weight of a camera and feels like cheap brittle plastic.
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Yes I had a China one prior to my Velbon. It's as you described your friends one.
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I did spend a little time looking for Macro Rails but the cheap Chinese (£30) knockoff I got works exceedingly well - good solid aluminium, great fine adjustment and lockoff - holds my MP-E 65mm extremely well
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Obviously you got a better one that I did. Mine had a brittle coarse adjustment, slips when at an angle and generally very poor construction.
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