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Old 08-12-2009, 09:30   #1 (permalink)
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Manual White Balance Settings

Ok, I have got a question about white balance. Since I've seen the other thread it just gets me mixed up again.

If you set your white balance for example indoors, then you can use this only inside or am I wrong. Could you use it outdoors or everywhere. You see what I just can't grab is why you would need to get a white balance settings. I know the light changes all the time.

You can always use the grey card to get a manual white balance. But is it the light it is in (indoors/outdoors/tungsten light) and comes through from the sides to the lens that decided the white balance? I have studied this and asked a prof and thought I understood, but there is still that little bit that I just can't grab.

There is so much to set before you start using your dslr for shoots. But it's fun though and at least I'm using all features now.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:21   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Manual White Balance Settings

If you shoot RAW, the WB setting doesn't really matter as you can change the Temp and Tint in your converter.

Sometimes AWB wll be fooled if there is, say a predominant colour in the frame. Also Canons are notoriously bad at getting WB right under artificial light. Setting it to Tungsten or Fluorescent helps, but ideally use Custom WB.

If you set to an outdoor WB and then shoot under artificial light, everything will be very orange. The other way around and everything will be blue.

There's is also a ºKelvin setting which can be useful. Try setting that to around 2800ºK under artificial light, and the result may be better than with the Tungsten or AWB settings.

But, as I said at the start, if you shoot RAW it doesn't really matter. The camera's WB is only a starting point and you can alter it as you wish.
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Re: Manual White Balance Settings

I use Kelvin as well and find that my photo's are more punchy.

Nikon has the same problem with wb in artificial light. I shoot RAW only now and change the wb if needed in photoshop. Not a problem. I just wanted to get it right beforehand, less pp then since I don't get much time to do that.
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Re: Manual White Balance Settings

If you are shooting JPEG then it is best to try and get it right first time. Use the relevant WB setting or measure though auto may be OK most of the time.

I have only ever used Raw so it is not so critical but you still may wish to avoid extra work. I generally leave my camera on AWB so that the camera value is the starting point in the Raw converter. I tend only to adjust this if it seems obviously wrong (not often) or if I wish to be more creative (e.g. warming the scene by altering the WB). However, I was given a useful tip which I now use. Where you take a large number of images under similar lighting conditions (e.g. our Club Studio Group), set the WB to a fixed value (e.g. Flash). Even though this may not be spot on, you only need to correct one image and can then transfer the settings to all of the others. The accurancy of WB will depend on the subject and reason for the photographs. Skin tones need to be fairly accurate as do colours in fashion photography and some natural history but in many other types of photography I do not think that precision colours are really necessary.
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Re: Manual White Balance Settings

On my nikon i can safe different white balance settings and then use them next time around for when needed.

With 3 kids you just don't get much time for yourself. So post processing is for me is too much time consuming. But thanks for the replies. I'm gonna practise it alot.

A handy thing to know for the people with liveview on there Nikons. When you change your white balance and your in liveview, you can see the difference. So once your ok with using liveview with your white balance, you could then go back to single shooting mode and take photo's. I thought that was quiet handy.
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Re: Manual White Balance Settings

Invest in a small collapsible grey card & then include it in your 1st shot. Then within PS or LR you just drop your WB selector on the card & voila all sorted. I use this method for Studio shoots & once set I can apply WB to remainder of shots within secs
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Re: Manual White Balance Settings

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Invest in a small collapsible grey card & then include it in your 1st shot. Then within PS or LR you just drop your WB selector on the card & voila all sorted. I use this method for Studio shoots & once set I can apply WB to remainder of shots within secs
Nice one Dave, I shall get one of these.

If you go to their site, they have some tutorials under video demos showing how easy it is to use with Photoshop or in camera.

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Yes that sounds like a good idea
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Arn't I a lucky one, my white balance has never been used on my camera its always set on AWB I just let the camera get on with it!
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Haha lol. It's because I'm very picky and awb is not always right either
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