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Old 08-11-2006, 10:09   #1 (permalink)
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dont you just hate it when suddenly someone you know decides that they are "into" photography, have the money to buy whatever camera they want....... go out and start snapping at anything in auto, ask for your opinion............ then decide that cos they have known you for longer than u have been into photography, that you dont actually know anything, and because you dont have as good a camera as theirs your opinions or knowledge is all wrong!
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I am the first to admit that im still very much a beginner to photography, and yes i may not have the be all and end all camera............ but i DO produce some damn good shots! and i DO know the difference between what knowledge i know and understand and what i dont............. but to have someone who has barely picked up a camera act as if i dont know an aperture setting from a shutter speed setting really gets my gaul!!!!!!!!!

OK moan over! lololol ahhhhhhhhhhhh i feel so much better now!
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:13   #2 (permalink)
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LOL.......you feel better for that F
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:19   #3 (permalink)
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Just tell them that its the person behind the camera that makes the difference not the camera itself and if they knew anything about photography they would already know that!!



Thats should take the wind out of their sails
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:27   #4 (permalink)
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hmmmmmm i have tried buyt they are the type of person who have their head so full of their own importance it is literally like banging your head off a brick wall, and i know it shouldnt get to me but i feel like i have worked damn hard to learn what i do know and am more than willing to help others but i dont want things flung back in my face........ anyway from now on all i will be saying is " nice shot" lolol

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It is a problem and I understand exactly where you are coming from, Im supposed to be a professional but I don't even own a n L series lens Why? because the ones I do own I make work for me and I don't think the results are too bad. Im sure people will say that I can't be a proper pro unless I own pro lenses etc and I just laugh. Don't get me wrong I would love some nice image stabalised L series glass but ive learned to make do with what I have.
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It is a problem and I understand exactly where you are coming from, Im supposed to be a professional but I don't even own a n L series lens Why? because the ones I do own I make work for me and I don't think the results are too bad. Im sure people will say that I can't be a proper pro unless I own pro lenses etc and I just laugh. Don't get me wrong I would love some nice image stabalised L series glass but ive learned to make do with what I have.
I couldn't agree more with you Gary

I am very lucky to have been able to afford some L glass and love the results I get from using it but I have a very small lens collection due to me spending so much on each piece. I made a choice at the beginning to save and make do with what i could afford and for my small L glass collection I have made many sacrifices.

I still fully maintain that it is the person behind the camera that makes the single biggest difference and I have seen evidence to back that up time and time again. Gary working as a seasoned Professional and not using 'Pro' glass is yet another fine example of that
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The sooner you fall behind, the more time you will have to catch up
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Just compare some photos Fiona The end result is all that matters
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hmmmmmm i have tried buyt they are the type of person who have their head so full of their own importance it is literally like banging your head off a brick wall, and i know it shouldnt get to me but i feel like i have worked damn hard to learn what i do know and am more than willing to help others but i dont want things flung back in my face........ anyway from now on all i will be saying is " nice shot" lolol

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I would make the point,without the eye it dosn't matter a dam what equipment you use.A fact i am very conscious of at the moment.
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Old 08-11-2006, 17:00   #10 (permalink)
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Fiona, tell your friend two things:

1. I have a friend called Rob who has a far better set of lenses than you've got and he thinks my pics are great and your pics are c***!

2. There are three things you have to learn if you REALLY want good pics:
Composition, Composition and Composition!

Without composition, you can have all the top cameras and L series lenses you like, it makes not a stuff of difference. As a photography judge I can tell you now that the vast majority of critical comments I make are to do with composition, not technical ability with camera buttons! Sure we all know stuff like depth of field and lighting are important but the fact is an eye for composition does not just happen, it can take years to really develop a cracking good eye.

When you've done with all of that, tell the prat to join up on Pixalo and make sure we know his name: we'll be sure to give him some 'helpful pointers' :o)

At the end of the day, good photographers love people who are keen to learn and develop their skills in this field. By the same token, good photographers can't stand know-alls who have been snapping for two minutes and think they are Lord Lichfield's reincarnation!

There you go, said my 3p worth (come on, that rant was way better than 2p worth!) :o)

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lol i may well tell "her and him" to join up here........... didint give it a thought actually cos they have the most annoying habit of seeming to take over everything!........ and the thing is they would listen to absolutely everyone here and use the information....... as long as it doesnt come from me! lolol
does that sound like sour grapes....... i dont mean it that way......... right im off to send an email with a linnk for them............ erm.......... can we lose this thread if they do join! ?lolol
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Yay! Go Rob! You tell 'em!
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Make sure you warn us when they join so we can hide your comments
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I can see where the guy is coming from though!


Just kidding


Truth is, the offender is probably lonely and just wanted to strike up a conversation about their new found passion, don't feel bad about it.
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BTW: If it's any consolation I have been into photography for mare yers than I care to remember and still can't take a good picture of grass.
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Truth is, the offender is probably lonely and just wanted to strike up a conversation about their new found passion, don't feel bad about it.
you know if it was that i wouldnt mind......... but i know them too well and i know by how they say things that they truely belive they are better than me...... lol not just in photography either! lol

sad or what eh,........

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Make sure you warn us when they join so we can hide your comments

Dave........... i wouldnt wish them on anyone! lol
and for all i know they may already be viewing and if i sent a link they would automatically know it was me and who i was talking about! lol

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you know if it was that i wouldnt mind......... but i know them too well and i know by how they say things that they truely belive they are better than me...... lol not just in photography either! lol

sad or what eh,........

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Well you only have one choice then, you'll have to sell some vital organs and get yourself an EOS 1DS MK11.
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LOL damn why havent i thought of that before!
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BTW: If it's any consolation I have been into photography for mare yers than I care to remember and still can't take a good picture of grass.
Whoa Soupie, surely that's illegal mate!


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.... you mean THAT kind of grass.... the sort that cows eat! Ok, got yer!!!
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Theres a name for people types like that, "SIPS"

Stands for "Self Important Prats".
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but i know them too well and i know by how they say things that they truely belive they are better than me...... lol not just in photography either! lol

sad or what eh,........

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TBH it sounds like a person I wouldn't waste my time talking to... or even knowing for that matter
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.... you mean THAT kind of grass.... the sort that cows eat! Ok, got yer!!!
It's just for medicinal reasons and it helps with airial photography.
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