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Old 22-01-2009, 22:08   #1 (permalink)
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Monitor and color calibration

Ok. Here's our dilemma...

We've tried putting the correct color spaces on Photoshop CS3 and4.

But.... the prints from Adoramapix and even when we upload to a gallery, seem to be all different. I am weary of every thing being a different color!!!

How do i get ALL these things to be as consistent in visual color as possible???


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Old 22-01-2009, 22:23   #2 (permalink)
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are you using the same color profile?
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Have you calibrated your monitor?
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If photos look different in Photoshop and in a web browser chances are you're either shooting in (if shooting JPG) or saving as (as you export from RAW) the AdobeRGB colour space.

sRGB is the easy solution. Adobe RGB can give you colours when you print - but if you need to ask the question above I'd suggest you stick with sRGB. I use sRGB for everything - and it works for me

As for prints - that's another kettle of fish. Once you've established that your monitor is callibrated - it's worth seeing if Adoramapix provide ICC profiles for their printer and paper choices.
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I struggled for ages and eventually gave in and got mysellf a Spyder3 pro to colour calibrate my screen.

Recently after getting close to pulling out my few remaining hairs I added a Spyder print.

I wish I'd done it sooner, I can now get both my monitors, and my printers to match.

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what is a spyder print and how did you do it
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Spyder Print

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Watch this video it's worth wasting 10 minutes

Videos - Datacolor - Global Leader in Color Management Solutions

Datacolor have 2 bits of kit that help set up your colours. I don't work for them so I'm only going off my experience.

1st you need to calibrate your screen to a known value, whats the point of getting prints right when your looking at something different on your screen, and how do you know your prints are right.

So I purchased a Datacolor Spyder pro3

Spyder3Pro - Datacolor - Global Leader in Color Management Solutions

This is a simple device that allows you to calibrate your screen. You load the software, plug in the device and follow the instruction. Basically it puts a picture of the device on the screen that you cover with the device. It puts a number of colour blocks on the screen, reads them and stores a profile. Every time you start your PC it loads a driver and sets your screen to the known values. It reminds you every 30 days to check the calibration. So now your screen is a known value.

Next you need to print those same colours so I purchased a Datacolor Spyder Print

Spyder3Print - Datacolor - Global Leader in Color Management Solutions

This device does a similar thing for your printer.

You load the software and plug in the unit. In the software you print a series of colour swatches or patches. You turn all colour control in the driver off, that way your getting exactly what the datacolor software tries to print. You then give it a profile name say R300 CISS Agfa. Then comes the only laborious part, you have to read every patch which if you go mental and print the 700+ patches will bore you to tears before you finish.
Now you have a series of readings for every colour from deep black to pure white. If you think printer paper is pure white you'll find out it actually is very slightly off white. Maybe expensive papers aren't.


Now you have profiled your screen so you know thats displaying a known value, and if you use the ICC profile for your printer and turn off all colour management in the printer driver you will know the colour your printing.

This believe me will make you take a step back in wonderment if your struggling with prints.

The main thing to do is take your time with reading the patches.

There is another very good system called ColorMunki, which if truth be told is a more expensive unit and may give better results, personally I can't say but a friend has one and he's happy with the results.

With both systems an hour and a little taking of time will give great results.

One thing if you decide to buy them buy them seperate, you can buy spider studio with both but it works out that you pay about £40 for a case with identical bits in it. Get a case from the pound shop and some foam to line it with off your local market
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thanks for the info i have the spyder 2 got completely lost with it
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I just want to reinforce what Chris H said. The Spyder system of print calibration saves hours of frustration and £s worth of paper. I use huey to calibrate my screen; it is simple and cheap and seems to work very well. But with Spyder print you can produce profiles for each paper you use, for each printer you have, and always be sure that the colours will be correct.
The print makers don't like it because they want you to use their inks and their papers - that is why the printers are so cheap!
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