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Old 31-10-2009, 06:32   #1 (permalink)
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Need lens help

Need opinions on the following lenses. I'm am a beginner and I have a Nikon D40. I was hired to take pictures for a wedding anniversary and found my self changing lenses often. I currently have kit lens that came with the camera 18-55 and 55-200vr.

I'm thinking about getting one of the following Nikon 18-105vr, 18-135, Sigma 18-200or Tamron 18-270 plus the Nikon 35mm f/1.8.


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Old 31-10-2009, 09:28   #2 (permalink)
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what kinda concerns me is that you admit you are a beginner, yet you are taking money ( being hired) to shot an event which will be special to the couple....... I certainly wouldnt be doing it unless i was much more than a beginner, changing lenses is part of DSLR photography, if you dont want to change especially for things like this then get a point and shoot or a bridge and dont hire yourself out.
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For Weddings etc I would advise that you should consider looking at a second body and work both bodies with different lenses. You then have the added security of a back up body if one fails.
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d40newbie: I dont tend to agree 100% with fionaB in relation to her comments. Everybody has to start somewhere, be it a birthday, anniversary or a casual portrait sitting. However, if you are taking money there is a certain level of expectation from customers.

When I first started I started in budget type weddings till my skills and equipment improved. I charged about a qaurter of my opposition and got quite a bit of work. I made it quite clear that I was not professional and the quality of the images that I will produce for them will not be to the standards of those charging four times the price. 90% of customers were fine with that.
Most people tend to believe in the age old saying you get what you pay for. Obviously the more special the event the more people are willing to pay. A persons propensity to pay is also a function of income....

A photographer that charges a quarter of the price of another will undoubtly produce less quality work.

I believe that the Nikon 35 f/1.8 would be a good addition to your kit to accompany the 55-200vr. It will allow for low light ambient shots without the use of a flash, and its a prime which will undoubtley produce a better quality image.

As P-E has said a second body is invaluable when being commisioned for work. Touch wood I have never had to use my second body due to failure of primary body, however I do use it for different applications alongside my primary body.

There is a key rule to marketing and sales. The price of something is only governed by what someone is willing to pay for it.

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Old 31-10-2009, 20:44   #5 (permalink)
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what kinda concerns me is that you admit you are a beginner, yet you are taking money ( being hired) to shot an event which will be special to the couple....... I certainly wouldnt be doing it unless i was much more than a beginner, changing lenses is part of DSLR photography, if you dont want to change especially for things like this then get a point and shoot or a bridge and dont hire yourself out.
Thanks for the advice, but I was seeking input regarding the lenses that I mentioned.
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Old 31-10-2009, 20:54   #6 (permalink)
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d40newbie: I dont tend to agree 100% with fionaB in relation to her comments. Everybody has to start somewhere, be it a birthday, anniversary or a casual portrait sitting. However, if you are taking money there is a certain level of expectation from customers.

When I first started I started in budget type weddings till my skills and equipment improved. I charged about a qaurter of my opposition and got quite a bit of work. I made it quite clear that I was not professional and the quality of the images that I will produce for them will not be to the standards of those charging four times the price. 90% of customers were fine with that.
Most people tend to believe in the age old saying you get what you pay for. Obviously the more special the event the more people are willing to pay. A persons propensity to pay is also a function of income....

A photographer that charges a quarter of the price of another will undoubtly produce less quality work.

I believe that the Nikon 35 f/1.8 would be a good addition to your kit to accompany the 55-200vr. It will allow for low light ambient shots without the use of a flash, and its a prime which will undoubtley produce a better quality image.

As P-E has said a second body is invaluable when being commisioned for work. Touch wood I have never had to use my second body due to failure of primary body, however I do use it for different applications alongside my primary body.

There is a key rule to marketing and sales. The price of something is only governed by what someone is willing to pay for it.

Good Luck
Thank you. Every pro was once a beginner who had to start somewhere. As a long as I don't make false promises about my abilities (and I won't), I'll be fine.
The person who hired me could not afford not to pay the professional photographer that I recommended to her so she asked me to do it.

It was a good learning experience for me, and they were pleased with the pictures. Also I will consider the second body.
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Re: Need lens help

A quick google revealed not-so-great reviews of the Sigma 18-200 os ... main gripe being that it's quite soft.

Thoroughly recommend the Nikon 18-200 VR though This focal range will obviate the need to keep changing lenses.

If you want to avoid changing lenses, I'm wondering why you're keen on the Nikon 35mm prime lens I wouldn't say this lens is a must-have by any means, + I personally think your money would be better spent going towards a good quality zoom lens.

Good luck in your endeavours
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I think when choosing lenses it's also important to have an idea of what you are wanting to do should you decide you want to earn from it. 90% of what I do now is music - bands etc - mainly live performances, so my equipment is geared in that direction.

You will learn loads from many in this forum as there are many people who can offer advice on pretty much every aspect of photography - I admit that I have learn't loads from the guys n gals in here.
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A quick google revealed not-so-great reviews of the Sigma 18-200 os ... main gripe being that it's quite soft.

Thoroughly recommend the Nikon 18-200 VR though This focal range will obviate the need to keep changing lenses.

If you want to avoid changing lenses, I'm wondering why you're keen on the Nikon 35mm prime lens :


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Ponders: I wouldn't say this lens is a must-have by any means, + I personally think your money would be better spent going towards a good quality zoom lens. Thank you! Please elaborate.
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I think when choosing lenses it's also important to have an idea of what you are wanting to do should you decide you want to earn from it. 90% of what I do now is music - bands etc - mainly live performances, so my equipment is geared in that direction.

You will learn loads from many in this forum as there are many people who can offer advice on pretty much every aspect of photography - I admit that I have learn't loads from the guys n gals in here.
Thank you! All I know is this, I love it when someone likes a picture that I take of them "being natural". I get a lot of joy from this! If I get good enough to make some money, great. If not, I'll keep on learning and spreading joy!
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Again i agree with some of the comments here and again i agree with to a point with some from the other angle, I dont consider myself a pro in any shape or form I have been asked occasionally if i would do someones "event" . I recently went to my wifes sisters wedding and they had a so called pro, I took my d300 and a few lenses and now ive been told mine are far better than the so called pro which by looking at his results he had the wb set to totally the wrong setting and shoot jpegs leaving little pp avalible. Now they want me to put a album together!!
When i took this hobby up some 10 years ago i never intended to make money from it. The trouble is now and ive heard this mentioned that more and more people are buying a camera and then going out into the market under cutting the pros by big money however on the other hand spme of the prices ive seen the pros charge in excess of 4k ive seen is in this climate a bit "silly". But there again if people will pay it.
However i must be doing something right as ive managed to get a second and commended in my camera clubs aggregate competion out of some 70 entries.
Trouble is with these events you only get one chance and that one chance at someones special day.
My fav lenses for these "events" are my 17 55 2.8 a 50mm 1.4 and a 70 200 2.8 vr
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Ponders: I wouldn't say this lens is a must-have by any means, + I personally think your money would be better spent going towards a good quality zoom lens. Thank you! Please elaborate.
Whilst the 35mm used to be considered a 'standard' focal length, the 50mm has taken over this role, and is a far more popular + a great little lens. Try clicking some camera gear buttons of members here (under the avatar) + see how many of us have one So if you're after a good prime lens, then the Nikkor 50mm (1.4 or 1.8, both are v. good) is the one to go for. A little later on, the next good prime lens to think about will be the 85mm f/1.4, but it costs rather more than the modest 50mm, which is why the 50mm is so popular

However, having said all that, a 50mm lens doesn't help you not change lenses at an event, unless you have a 2nd body, as advised by P-E.

My favourite pro-quality zoom lens for a dx camera (like my D50 + your D40, + assuming it's compatible with your D40 but you should check) is the 17-55mm f/2.8 lens mentioned by muscle, this is a fantastic lens, if a bit pricey (but the 70-200mm f/2.8 he mentions is far too big for your camera, so forget that one).

In the meantime + to be going on with, I'd advise you to go for the Nikkor 18-200mm VR lens that I previously recommended, this will more than take care of all your photographic needs while you are learning, and will very capably take shots good enough for an event at a beginners level + beyond
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I would also look at a s/h D200 which can now be had for reasonable money
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Thank you for your input, it is much appreciated!
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I would also look at a s/h D200 which can now be had for reasonable money
What do you think of the D90?
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never had one but havent seen a bad word yet
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