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Old 09-04-2014, 21:55   #1 (permalink)
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Hey, so I've got my 60D for my birthday, with an 18-135mm (w/lens hood), a manfrotto tripod and a battery grip...

I was thinking about what to get next, as payday is coming up soon so I was just wondering what's a must have in a photographers bag... anything from Lens, Flashes, Filters, Triggers or anything whatsover?

But the one requirement is lets keep it under 100 if at all possible
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Flashgun is always useful, but it depends what you are going to be doing most. There are some good flashguns available from decent Chinese makers for well under 100 but most will be manual. I think that Youg Nuo have recently introduced a dedicated one though.

I think there was a thread not too long ago discussing budget flashguns so it might be worth searching for it.
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Flashgun is always useful, but it depends what you are going to be doing most. There are som goos flashguns available from decent Chinese makers for well under 100 but most will be manual. I think that Youg Nuo have recently introduced a dedicated one though.

I think there was a thread not too long ago discussing budget flashguns so it might be worth searching for it.
I'll try and have a look for it, if you find it before me can you link me to it please? there's a lot of threads going around
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I will. Have a feeling that Silver made some contributions to it.

I was right. I think this is the thread (but there are others too)

http://www.pixalo.com/community/gene...ght-51172.html

My post #2 has some more links of interest.
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Cheep must have for me is any kind of cable or remote release.
Saves you using the 2 second delay. Also a nice sturdy bag to keep
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must have for me is any kind of cable or remote release
Agree with that. I have a Phottix Plato Wireless Remote (scroll down the page) - cost about 40 and has lots of uses.
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Cheapest I can think of is a lens cloth.

However - what type of photography are you going in mostly for at the moment ?

Flash would be good for portraits, but if you're doing landscapes then ND's or a Polarising filter might be best.
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I will. Have a feeling that Silver made some contributions to it.

I was right. I think this is the thread (but there are others too)

http://www.pixalo.com/community/gene...ght-51172.html

My post #2 has some more links of interest.
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Cheapest I can think of is a lens cloth.

However - what type of photography are you going in mostly for at the moment ?

Flash would be good for portraits, but if you're doing landscapes then ND's or a Polarising filter might be best.
Wow thankyou for all the responses, first of all dabhand thanks for the link it has some good stuff, I found a yonguo if that's how you spell it going for 30 which is amazing and I might buy it, I'm pretty simple when it comes to flashes, is it simple to use (If you've used it) cause I might buy one, because (and to answer chrisa' question at the same time) I'm not really into anything specific at the moment, still trying to find what I like the most, I do love portraits and event photography, I've used a canon speedlite in the past and loved it, and I'd definitely like a flash gun to give me that option at events.

But I would also consider getting some decent filters if you could recommend a few? - I do like landscape photography but I don't know what I'd say specifically, I like cityscapes, night photography, urban photography so it's hard to jot me down to anything specific yet, cause at 18 and still studying I'm not too sure where I'm headed yet, so I'm definitely looking into speedlites and filters, I might buy that yonguo if it's simple to get to grips with?

And to answer Fiztastic now, I already have a wired shutter release, and I'm buying an interval trigger at some point for 9 that works well for time lapses, I've already mentioned it in a previous thread, but I'm definitely going to buy it cause it works well as a shutter release as well as an intervalometer and it has a reasonably long cable... But I guess at some point down the line I might look into getting a wireless one

And then onto the bag, my brother has ordered me a bag apparently (I have one that I got for my birthday off him that he had lying around) but it was to use until the ordered backpack had came so we'll see on that front... but if that doesn't come my girlfriends family friend works at manfrotto and happens to be able to get me a good back at a really good price
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I've just seen Silver's post on one of the threads about the Yongnuo YN560 and that looks like a really good camera for not much more than the 460 but it looks really complicated to use
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Liam - good filters are not cheap! Nevertheless they are a good tool. Great value in my opinion are the SRB Griturn own brand range. Their Pro 0.9 ND filter got best on test / gold award in a recent magazine group test

http://www.pixalo.com/community/supp...tml#post390743

For landscapes a set of graduated NDs will be very useful and IIRC a set of 4 SRB ones are (were) under 50. The Kood polariser from SRB is also good value and handy for landscapes.

If you understand the basics of photography a manual flash should present you with no problems. The only situation that I've found that an auto mode works well enough to tempt me away from using manual mode with my Nikon system is using fill flash at an event where the light is constantly changing. The Nikon CLS system has a mode for balancing the fill against the available light and it works very well. With Youg Nuo now producing dedicated flashes one of these might be worth considering if you are not confident.

From what you say In think that maybe the filters/tripod route might be the way to go initially as you can use daylight to do portraits - even indoors using window light. You might have enough left over to get a flash too!
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If you mean by events - indoor bands etc then a flash would be my choice.

If I was to go with a filter - I'd look at a polarizer first off. Has uses to darken the blues in skies, as well as take reflections out of things. Also can be good to use as a way of getting a stop or 2 off the speed of a shot when wanting to slow things down ( eg water etc).
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All suggestions have their possibilities, but have you considered buying second hand? This can get you a decent piece of kit at a reasonable price.

My only warning is unless you know exactly what you are looking for, or are prepared to take a gamble then ebay and the like is not the best place. This applies especially to second hand flash guns. I believe that Canon cameras are not protected like Nikon and putting an old flash unit (that can dump 2 or 3 hundred volts) on the hot shoe will blow the trigger circuit in the camera. Most modern flash guns only put a few volts across the firing contacts.
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As you don't know what you want just keep saving your money for another lens. There's no point in paying for that feature unless you're going to use it
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Jake makes a good point. You should be adding to your kit based on need not expectation. The one slight thing I'd disagree with is that your savings might not necessarily be best spent on a lens depending on what your photography needs

When I got back into photography I kept the 18-70 kit lens for more than a year before getting a Sigma 10-20. This was followed shortly after by a 70-200 f2.8 mostly because I got it at an unbelievable price. This was my least used lens though! More recently, I do use my Nikkor 80-200 f2.8 that replaced the Sigma 70-200 quite a lot in the studio.

So best thing would be to just carry on with your kit and note when you are finding it is restricting what you want to do or what your results are like. Once you find a pattern forming you can get the kit that you need to overcome the restriction.
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Alright cheers everyone

So I think I'll look into filters too, what graham said about second hand flashes really put me off the idea until I'm definite, I don't want to screw up a brand new camera all because of a 30 flash off amazon, so I might look into filters, I've got a new manfrotto bag coming on the way which I'm really happy about, so I think I'll just give it a while and then buy more kit depending which photography route I end up going down

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This web site gives you the trigger voltages of many old flashguns

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