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Old 11-11-2010, 23:04   #1 (permalink)
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Nikon RAW Files Problems

I have a friend who used his D90 to take photos of his own wedding.

He took 230 photos and had camera save a NEF and a JPEG for each shot.

Now he has come to review his photos only about half are visible.

Basically he has therefore 100+ NEF and JPG files but done of them can be opened or displayed in a viewer. I have tried CS5, iPhoto and ViewNX.

The memory card is showing them and their files sizes are consistent with the images that can be seen.

He is desperate not to loose these image so can anyone help? Please?
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Re: Nikon RAW Files Problems

Can you clarify the problem? I get confused when I read "... only about half are visible" and later "done (none?) of them can be opened or displayed in a viewer..." Which is it, half or none?

If it's half, then maybe the NEF viewer/codec needs to be installed in windows (i.e. only the jpegs can be viewed?).

If it's none, check if the memory card is full; he may need to delete one or two to make room for access to the card.

Try importing them, rather than viewing them from the memory card.

Is the memory card locked?
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Re: Nikon RAW Files Problems

Presumably, he's still got the card - can he copy from the card and view all the JPGs? Or is it both the NEF and the JPGs?
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Re: Nikon RAW Files Problems

He has given me the card and I have copied all 400 files to my Mac.

Half of the files 1-126 are viewable both in RAW and JPEG. From photo 121-240 they are there in file name, file type and the sizes of the JPG and NEF are consistent with what they should be.

However, none of these last set can be viewed either in RAW or the JPG and if you try to open then you get an 'unsupported file type' or other such message.

It looks to me that somehow these files are all corrupt but I would really like to help to get them recovered.

By the way I also have the memory card if needed in my possesion.

Hope this clarifies.

p.s. I'm not exactly a 'numpty' when it come to computers and stuff so I have tried the obviously 'numpty' problems but they just don't seem to open.
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Re: Nikon RAW Files Problems

Reason I mention JPGs is that they're infinitely easier to work with, not being a proprietary format. Have you tried PhotoRescue which is claimed to recover damaged images (as opposed to just deleted ones!)?
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Re: Nikon RAW Files Problems

The camera takes shots in JPG's and RAW at the same time BUT only shows the JPG's, you need a program that reads Nikon Raw files. Nikon NX wont do this, Photo Shop and Paint Shop Pro will.
The memory card isn't corrupt leave it alone.
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The camera takes shots in JPG's and RAW at the same time BUT only shows the JPG's, you need a program that reads Nikon Raw files. Nikon NX wont do this, Photo Shop and Paint Shop Pro will.
The memory card isn't corrupt leave it alone.
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But, as I say, concentrate on trying to recover the JPGs at this stage
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Re: Nikon RAW Files Problems

Right I'm gonna try that programme you mentioned above.

I'll let you know.
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The camera takes shots in JPG's and RAW at the same time BUT only shows the JPG's, you need a program that reads Nikon Raw files. Nikon NX wont do this, Photo Shop and Paint Shop Pro will.
The memory card isn't corrupt leave it alone.
Not the issue I'm afraid.

I have and can open files 1-127 both the JPG and NEF because I have Capture NX, Adobe Bridge CS5 & iPhoto. All will view and open them as indeed the traditional Apple file viewer will, even the RAW NEF files.

The problem is that files 128 onwards simply will not open in any programe or format.
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Re: Nikon RAW Files Problems

could you maybe share one of those files (NEF and JPG) ? Maybe someone can pick it up and take a look (I'll give it a try).
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could you maybe share one of those files (NEF and JPG) ? Maybe someone can pick it up and take a look (I'll give it a try).
I would have no problem sharing one and the guy who's wedding it was would love for someone to be able to resolve the problem.

The NEF files are 10mb and the JPG 5mb so it might be worth me uploading a couple to my iDisk and sharing them.

If anyone could help could they perhaps PM me with an email address and I can sort out a public access and password for my iDisk.

Thanks in advance.
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Sorry, just reread my reply and named the wrong program, it's Nikon View-NX that won't read Raw - Nikon's Capture NX will. ...I use it myself...
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Sorry, just reread my reply and named the wrong program, it's Nikon View-NX that won't read Raw - Nikon's Capture NX will. ...I use it myself...
Not sure about PC's but my ViewNX2 on a Mac reads RAW Files.

It is normally all I ever use!
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i am a bit of a noob when it comes to this sort of thing well lack confidence ..anyway last week my external hard drive went belly up and my camera card did as well i could not veiw any photos at all, raw or jpeg.....i'll get to the point, after searching the net for answers i found a site called i.Care it's a small program that can retrieve anything on the hard drive or memory cards ( it's free )
nothing to lose i thought so downloaded.. i may add it took some time but i retrieved all my photos back..i then formatted the drive and the memory card now both are working fine and the memory card it also working again .
it's a long shot but i worked for me......
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I was going to suggest trying Recuva from Piriform - better known for CCleaner.

Another free download

Recuva - Undelete, Unerase, File and Disk Recovery - Free Download
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I was going to suggest trying Recuva from Piriform - better known for CCleaner.

Another free download

Recuva - Undelete, Unerase, File and Disk Recovery - Free Download
That one seems to be a PC program so I can't use it on my Mac.

Thanks though.
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but i'm sure you can use.. Icare.... check it out
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That one seems to be a PC program so I can't use it on my Mac.

Thanks though.
Hey ho. Didn't think of that
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As some of the image files can be read and some can't (on 2 different 'puters - yours and your friend's), it defo sounds like a memory card problem, so that a recovery programme will be your best bet, as has already been suggested. If you can't find one for your Mac, then try a Doze one on your friend's (or any) pc. Look forward to hearing how you get on.
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Now taken a look at a couple of the files and the file headers are corrupt/missing. As a result, even apps that claim to be able to repair damage to JPGs can't get a handle on the file info. Whilst I wouldn't rule out probs down to the memory card (without it it's difficult to judge - and probs could've happened at the write stage due to the card misbehaving) it looks like file damage

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Having typed the key phrase "memory card" my brain took on board that no one's checked what the memory card is and what reader is used (I've just read that a D90 takes SDHC cards! DOH! ). The problems look exactly like the symptoms of a SDHC card and SD reader (i.e. 2GB limit to SD only, so looks like file corruption beyond the 2GB). So it'd be worth checking that wherever this card has been read (and written) that SDHC protocol is used and not SD. If it's just down to an SD reader used, then read the card with an SDHC cardreader!
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Mark has the suggestions.....
Card reader SDHC in an SD slot.?... can we have any update on if that is the problem?...

Are the files viewable "In Camera", either by back-screen or by tether to a TV?...
If so, then the files are viable and should not be (yet) treated to any recovery process until it can be worked out WHY they cant be seen by Computer.

Otherwise, is there any chance of a Windows based machine getting access to the card?...
Its just that many of us have "Tools" that can diagnose card problems that we are willing to share that just DONT work on Mac's.

Possible "Workround" ... the files that CAN be read, can they be copied to a safe place (And verified as good as they are important) and then deleted from the card?...(I suggest deletion "In Camera", as the camera may use a different method..)
I say this as if it is a limit to what "Size" or memory space can be read by the card reader, if you remove files 1 through 100 from the card, it is quite possible the card reader may be able to see the extra files (say 100 through 200) left as the whole lot wont be talking up as much space anymore?...therefore not subject to the card reader "Limit"?...

Worth the try?....

If it works, copy verify and remove say 20 at a time until you have the lot?....
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Well I have an SDHC card reader and I have the same results.

The card is also an SDHC card.

I have tried to view the files by putting the card into my D300s and I can see all the ones that appear to be o.k. and all the others cannot be displayed. So no better on.

I have been able to copy all the images to my computer and I can upload the files to my iDisk which I have done for Markulous!

I am going to try a couple more ideas!

I'll update you!

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