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Old 09-03-2007, 09:07   #1 (permalink)
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Off to Crufts today, so will be taking camera

Now which lens to take, as I don't want to take them all

Haven't got a flash, so it will have to be fast lens.....that rules out the Sigma 10-20mm. The Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 would be great for distant shots, but it's a heavy bugger to carry round all day. It's got to be between the 50mm f/1.8 & Nikon 17-55mm f/2.8

50mm will be a lot lighter for the day & force me to move to get best shots, but then the 17-55 gives me more scope for day . Only really after tight crops of faces of dog breeds I like ......oh god, that pushes me back to 70-200 unless I can get close to dogs

Can anyone advise how close you can get to the dogs please at Crufts, as I have never been before ?
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:12   #2 (permalink)
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Can anyone advise how close you can get to the dogs please at Crufts, as I have never been before ?
Stand very still and make a noise like a pound of steak, and they will come to you.
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Re: Off to Crufts today, so will be taking camera

Bark loudly - I'm sure they'll kennel you near some dogs!
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I am not sure about taking lenses to Crufts, you'd be better off taking a dog!

I did try to train a sigma 70-200 to fetch sticks once, but it was a fairly fruitless excercise!
That said, trying to attach a Springer Spaniel to a D80 is no fun at all.
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That said, trying to attach a Springer Spaniel to a D80 is no fun at all.
Ahhhh, that's why I've a Sigma - and I've a choice of 3 Spaniels over the next few days. Hmmm, which one? The black, brown or yellow?
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Re: Off to Crufts today, so will be taking camera

Hi Dave

I've been going to Crufts for the past 12 years (won best bitch a few times! LOL!).

The lighting is crap, there is no other way to describe it. You can get very close to the dogs, especially in the benching areas and can get some nice candid shots of the dogs & owners. Most people are happy to let you photograph their dogs if you ask.
As for the show rings, again you can get right up to them, but it's just capturing the movement in the rubbish light.

I'm not sure if I'm going tomorrow as my friend has decided not to take her dog, as he's not looking at his best, but if I do, I would take my 17-85, 70-200 and my flashgun for the rings.

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Re: Off to Crufts today, so will be taking camera

Looking at the two shots posted above I would say that they are both good 'story tellers' and you have got most of the essentials correct. The thing that lets both down is the incorrect white balance..easy enough to correct though
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Re: Off to Crufts today, so will be taking camera

You're right Steve, they do need correcting & I have got versions I've worked on, but these do show how horrible it is. It's really dull & noisy & busy! I'm looking at the sunshine out of the office window & hoping my friend is going to say we're not going. Then I can go out to a bike race tomorrow, which is in one of the nicest areas of Northamptonshire. I can sit on the bonnet of my car with a flask of coffee & enjoy the view & catch the cyclists as they come round every 5 mile loop. My favourite kind of Saturday.
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Begs the question, what kind of noise does a pound of steak make?
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Begs the question, what kind of noise does a pound of steak make?
i would guess it would depend if you are eating it or being it ! <g>
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Re: Off to Crufts today, so will be taking camera

Impersonating it to attract a dog! So I suppose you would make squelchy noises if you were being a raw steak & sizzling noises for cooked.

Either way I think I'd feel an utter fool!
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Impersonating it to attract a dog! So I suppose you would make squelchy noises if you were being a raw steak & sizzling noises for cooked.

Either way I think I'd feel an utter fool!
Could get fried if one put one's reputation at steak
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New username?
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Hope you told them 'we'll meat again'.
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LOL - I believe you! It would be a funky username though.
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Definately a good name! I can think of a few people to nominate, although not on this site.
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I've Crufts on now to see if I can spot him
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I do think dog fanatics are muuppets!
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Re: Off to Crufts today, so will be taking camera

Didn't spot you mate........closest thing was a grey haired mut jumping through some hoops
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Didn't take the camera in the end http://www.pixalo.com/community/came...tml#post115596
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Re: Off to Crufts today, so will be taking camera

You must have had a premanition.

There must have been a reason you did not title the thread ' Off to Crufts today, so will be taking camera AND microdrive'.
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Whipspeed was right about the light there though ....terrible. Would definitely need a fast lens, or accept some noise by upping the ISO.

Also the advice for being able to get right up to the dogs is correct, so could have just used the 50mm f/1.8 to great effect. Ah well
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Good ploy. Change the subject.
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Re: Off to Crufts today, so will be taking camera

Just back from two days at Crufts and I didn't take my camera either, although there were moments I wished I had, walking round Crufts is tiring enough as it is without lugging a camera round my neck and bashing into even more people that I normally do! Managed to spend a small fortune though

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2 days !!!!! I was knackered after 3 hrs & left
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Glad you liked the whippets Angela, if we'd taken my friends young dog you could have seen him & the greyhounds. Just watched it on the tv & didn't think much to the whippet that got best of breed, it flicked out it's elbows as it moved a bit. Not surprised it didn't make the final cut for the hound group.
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