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Old 25-06-2013, 14:48   #1 (permalink)
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This might be to soon to bring to all of you. I have the need for information from the people who used film lenses that were all manual with a ring switch aperture ring. Hopefully coatings that don't block UV or have one maybe two coatings. Lenses in this time period are very useful at this time for me. Thanks peeps
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Old 25-06-2013, 16:01   #2 (permalink)
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I only use this type of lens. The lens coatings are probably not a major problem with UV; the cement used to bind elements together can be; and different examples of the same lens may use different cements, meaning that info on a specific lens may be specific to that example and not apply across the board to all lenses of the same specification.

The subject is covered in detail in various books on photographic optics and briefly in my book in the section on UV photography.
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Old 25-06-2013, 17:09   #3 (permalink)
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What book is that Stephen ?
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See my profile; I'm writing one. I can send you a link if you're interested - it's almost complete. Be warned - it's been said that it's not like any other book in the high street; it is long and it requires thought. How long is long? About 400 A4 pages, which on my reckoning makes it about the same size as Martin Evening's Photoshop book. I've also made efforts to not include anything that is likely to date, and there's no discussion about cameras. Camera types yes - because that influences how we approach things. Models - no.
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Old 25-06-2013, 23:38   #5 (permalink)
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Nikon only started using multi-coating at the beginning of the 70's as far as I know so any of their earlier lenses will probably suit. Many had simple construction so few with grouped elements.

Nikon Lens Serial Nos has a list of serial numbers, dates and characteristics that might help you search out a lens you can use, and you will not need the most expensive Nikon->Canon mount adapter.
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Sounds an interesting book. Are you publishing it then ?
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Stephen, the book sounds great and I'd love to take a look. Thanks for the link grease spot, I have 14 lenses that were in a box with 2 camera bodies. I cleaned them up,so far so good. I have two Nikons and your info is just what I need. Thanks
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I used to use a few M42 lenses on my Sigmas but not sure on coatings. Had/Have a 70-300mm "macro", 400mm, a 50mm and my standout favourite, a new Zenitar 16mm fisheye - all off eBay, as was the mount adapter
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I found a 400mm last night. I have trouble as it is with manual focus, sometimes yes sometimes no. It sure has been fun testing and mixing in what I have learned so far and try to have a lens stand out. I have 14 to try out. Need some adaptors. The screw mount I am using gives me a new problem of film plain verses sensor plain.
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Have moved along a little bit getting my M42 adapters in the mail. They are thinner and it looks like they corrected the close and far distence focus. I even had one of the lenses give a light for good focus. Don't know yet if that was a glich. I tried one lens out on my infrared and the normal settings I would use with new lenses had to be set to handle brighter light. Normal settings would be about f/5.6 to f/8 and 1/100s. I was shooting at f/16 and 22, would hope that it doesn 't turn into a golden nothin but I can hope with more expermenting. My Question is, would anyone use these lenses on a 1d, they look like and say they work. But i have plenty of good glass for it and would hate to ruin it. The main warning has been for M42 screw enlargers that have the threads moved inwards on the body and leave protruding end in mirror box. Also I am thinking of removing any protruding arms on the back of the lens as they serve no purpose after I would glue the aperture arm in place for manual use. Any thoughts? Also I will receive my other converters soon. Cool

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Also I am thinking of removing any protruding arms on the back of the lens as they serve no purpose after I would glue the aperture arm in place for manual use. Any thoughts? Also I will receive my other converters soon. Cool
It might mean messing around with manual exposure and focussing fully open and then stopping down to take the shot (rather like looong ago before full aperture TTL, which is what you are doing I guess). Make sure that you don't glue them fully open so that you cannot stop down
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The set up for aperture auto seems to be camera controlled, so I am making those that aren't already full manual work as though they were. I am sure you already know this. This is all new to me but I have made the right understanding of the way the auto works. Some have a little round button that springs shut and to a stop set by the ring aperture setting. The others have a flat spring loaded clip that moves the aperture open or closed. The "question" and what I think your are saying is, put these controls in the position that sets manual aperture, and fix them in place there. I am hoping that I won't be sorry down the road but a full manual lens is a good thing right now in my situation.
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Yep,,I had my 8 different kinds of adapters, all Fotodiox and they fit snug and actually work. I have total of 13 lenses, 2 FD canons and one Nikon. 1 of each a standard 50mm F/1.8 and the adapters allow me to use manual aperture with a quick switch to wide open to focus and back. It just seems that for the price they are good fits and had extras. I need to work more with the FD mount and watch the quality but I pulled in some very good pictures with the Nikon. As a side note I could here the camera body of my canon tickle the Nikon so it couldn't focus. Also found a bonus lens in great shape, a YUS C/Y mount 28mm f/2.0, I'll have to take a look at the F stop numbers when I get home to make sure, it might be an f/2.8. It also shots as the others I mentioned nicely on my UV converted 20D. Now if I narrow it down to find maybe a 35mm or a gem in hiding I need to see what the true colors are with my white balance.
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Well for an up date on the film lenses, I have moved the keeper list down to about 3. F/2.8 28-20omm zoom, f/2.8 28mm and a fifty mm. I have two other lenses, 150mm and a 135 mm I need to test some more. The problem is far focus, I loose control right before infinity an end up with most of my pictures just out of focus. I mixed in some EF stabilized lenses yesterday and that made a difference for the focus an the slower hand held times. Oh well if I end up with just a couple of 3 or 4 it will still have been worth the time spent. I don't want to spend some of the high prices they have on the adapters. The infinity focus o. The button comes from the back of the lens being in the correct placement. Some of the ones I bought are close but not on the money. Those lenses do have a wider from up close to infinity sharp focus then with maybe a worst adapter. But I want it on the money, 4 lenses do that right now.
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