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Old 10-10-2007, 12:51   #1 (permalink)
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Do you set the parmeters for each picture style, or do you not bother thank's...Ray
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:55   #2 (permalink)
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Which parameters, Ray?
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Old 10-10-2007, 13:07   #3 (permalink)
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That is entirely up to you Ray, they are there to be changed or you can leave them set to default. Default settings will be in the manual.
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Are you talking different shooting modes, camera setup etc ? If so, then yes. For landscape I will quite often want a decent depth of field of focus, so use a relatively high aperture (eg. f/11). If shooting a protrait I might want to throw the background out of focus so choose to use f/2.8. For sport I might want a higher shutter speed plus smaller focus area .
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I believe Ray is talking about changing the specific options for each Picture Style (on some Canon DSLRs). My new 40D has Picture Styles and they can be edited but I haven't tried playing with this yet. Generally I shoot in RAW and fiddle during PP quite a bit, so Picture Styles aren't as relevant for me.

If I was feeling bored, I'd configure some Picture Styles to apply at shooting time just so I got a better preview - e.g. decent Mono, boosted contrast, etc - but I'd still shoot in RAW in case I wanted to change my mind later.

If I shot in JPG, configuring Picture Styles carefully would be much more important to me, but I don't generally do that, so it's not something I've explored (yet!).
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It's important to remember that the settings for each style don't start from the same datum. For example, the Standard style uses a different tone curve from Neutral, and any changes to contrast etc are applied on top of that.
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I believe Ray is talking about changing the specific options for each Picture Style (on some Canon DSLRs).
That's the assumption I made.
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I've set one up for sports, as I shoot jpeg and they are not brilliantly sharp, so have set up one I specifically use just for sports with the sharpness level pushed up.
jpegs are not as sharp on the 40D as on the 20D and to me the grain in the high ISO is very noticable from ISO 400 upwards.
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My take on it is that the noise per sensor area is roughly the same, but the higher density of pixels on the 40D makes the noise appear more noticeable when viewing on a PC monitor at 100%. In other words, assuming you don't change your screen resolution, when you view a 40D image at pixel size, you are seeing a smaller area of the sensor and the noise looks more noticeable. I believe if you compare prints from both cameras you will see little if any difference (and probably a small difference in the 40D's favour if you use the noise reduction feature).

I've been reasonably impressed with the built in noise reduction for high ISO shots - it gets rid of quite a bit of colour noise but leaves luminance largely the same from what I can tell.

TBH, I can cope with a little bit of noise at high ISO because generally I can remove it and even if I can't remove it, I've got something usable. I prefer noisy but sharp shots to blurry smooth ones. The noise at ISO800 or 1600 is quite evenly spread and often looks good for mono conversions: the fast film look. ISO3200 is worse though, IMHO - you can get banding appearing in certain circumstances which doesn't look good even in mono - so I tend to leave ISO3200 for absolute emergencies.
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If you take a looksee at....

http://www.pixalo.com/community/phot...ion-17574.html

The first is at ISO 800 and the rest are ISO 1600, with no noise correction at all.
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Thanks for that, I've just read a review that says just that & I've printed out a rugby shot on A4 and it looks good printed, I'm going to print a cycle shot from both the 20D & 40D that have just been ordered (very handy) at 12x8, so I can check those as well. Not used the noise reduction yet, but will try at weekend. One thing I have noticed is that I have had to use higher ISO settings than normal so far, but then the light is different to earlier in the summer. Think I'm just worrying over nothing, so thanks for you post, it's much appreciated.

Thanks for your input as well Silkstone, much appreciated.
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