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Old 08-12-2008, 09:04   #1 (permalink)
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Photobooks - any recommendations?

I've done a quick search for photobook advice on the forum and there are a few threads but not since August, so...

Can anyone recommend a photobook site - I've been playing with bobbooks.co.uk (they also do flick books which are cool for presents) and the application is nice and easy to use but I am keen to make sure that the effort I put into setting up the book is not wasted on a bespoke file format or a provider who won't be there in the next few years.

I spotted a link to Pixalo photobooks, but the link didn't work so could you repost anyway if you can recommend them.

I am in the UK so UK providers only please.

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Old 08-12-2008, 09:29   #2 (permalink)
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Digital Photo Gift, Free Photo Software, Photo Book Have used them for about 8 books to date & been very impressed
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thanks...anyone else?
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Re: Photobooks - any recommendations?

wow...I'm surprised at so few replies. Has no-one else used photobooks before?

I am now laying one up in the Cewe Photobook software but it doesn't appear to show accurate bleed areas it just forces you to waste more of the picture than strictly necessary in order to avoid a border clashing with the trimmed edge.

I noticed that Morrisons has just re-launched their photo kiosk and offers photobooks to order. Has anyone looked into them at all?
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Re: Photobooks - any recommendations?

You will find that the majority of Photobook services in the UK actually go through Crewe as third party anyway. So going to some other places will not always ensure you get a better deal.

One very popular UK site for prints (including Photobooks) is Photobox. I have used their service in the past for prints and found them to be OK for the money (having got better results from more expensive professional printers) but I have never used them for photobooks.
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:35   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah, I have a few galleries on Photobox but I stopped using them when I started printing at home. I use PhotoBucket for linking pictures on the web as it quickly produces BB code or HTML.

The problem with photobooks on PhotoBox is that you have to upload all of the photos first before laying it out. What I've been doing when laying out is a bit of trial and error from the photos on my hard disk and PhotoBox would be a pain for this.

Thanks for the tip about Cewe being used by lots of others, I think it will probably be OK. I just have to finish editing my Japan pictures first (I have 800 left to edit but I've got 160 on sale from Japan already so it's all good )
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Re: Photobooks - any recommendations?

Hey.... I have produced a couple of books. I have a Mac Laptop (from work), the quality of their books is fantastic.... But in terms of cross platform...... I have used PhotoBox.... although it was OK... the quality was just no way near...... and there were a few 'issues'... e.g. The book was black, there was the occasional white poking through..... and the binding was questionable....

I have a friend who has tried Bob's Books... They are supposed to be very good, but I am yet to it see with my own eyes! She was impressed....
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I'm using Aperture and will get my first book in a couple of days.

I will let you know about the quality when I have received it.
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I have used Pixalo's Photo Book and was astounded at the quality of the results Andy so would recommend them very highly.

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Re: Photobooks - any recommendations?

Nearly finished the book. 66 pages at 30x30 at the moment but will grow to the next level...74 pages I think.

Here's a preview I was playing with for my website:

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Re: Photobooks - any recommendations?

I've finished the photobook. Thanks for the recommendation. Cewe was easy to work with in spite of having 404 pictures in the book, it only took about an hour or two to upload. It arrives on monday. Some more previews of the big page spreads, this is a 30cm x 30cm hard photo cover one, and my folks have agreed to pay for it as an engagement present (i proposed in Japan).










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beautiful layout...i love the way each page tells a story.
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Re: Photobooks - any recommendations?

It's about time I updated this thread as I now have a saga with Cewe-Photoworld. When I received the photobook I noticed that some of the pages showed green and magenta banding (variation in hue) down the page. At first I thought it was just the quality to be expected of a consumer photobook provider, but then after a few weeks I decided to order another copy.

I was worried that if we damaged the book or spilt something on it it would be irreplaceable so I ordered a spare (66 each these books). And when it arrived, it showed no signs of green and magenta banding (it does have a fault on the lamination of the cover, there are two small particles under the laminate but not so much as you'd notice). So I decided to send back the original book to get reprinted. I spoke to customer services and they advised me to send it back and thney would reimburse the postage.

A couple of weeks later a replacement book arrived out of the blue. Cewe had redeemed themselves, although they didn't correspond with me, they just sent it, and they haven't sent the cost of postage back.

So, last week I laid out a greeting card using their software. This had some text and a collage of Japan pictures. Each picture has a caption laid tight alongside. I put in my order for 40 greeting cards at a price of 55, pretty steep but they would look pretty special.

The cards arrived last week and I was very dissappointed. The text was not aligned to the pictures. Because of the size of the collage, the text was misaligned and overlapped the next picture and was cut off at the edges. On top of that, the cards were not of heavy enough stock to be considered greeting cards (more like heavy flyers) and the folding was not straight on ten of them.

So once again I phoned Cewe and explained and they agreed to have them back to assess them. They also advised me to fax in the receipt for both postages and they would raise a cheque. OK, I'm thinking, this company are pretty responsive.

Then yesterday, out of the blue, the cards were returned to me with a poorly laid out letter saying "...on this occasion, no fault could be found"

"There are always slight manufacturing tolerances to take in to consideration. The text on your cards falls within these tolerances"

"...we regret that we are unable to refund or reprint your order"

So I am left with 55 worth of cards that I cannot use and will go in the recycling.

I guess I won't be using Cewe ever again, their software promises something that they cannot achieve, WYSIWYG editing.
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For what it is worth, I was recently speaking to Uzair Kharawala (multi award winning photographer, writer and speaker) and he uses Loxley in Glasgow and swears by them. I've seen some of their coffee table photobooks and they were faultless.
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Well, the nail in the coffin for Cewe Photoworld...

Last night I finished laying out a new photobook of our honeymoon in Hawaii, 280 pictures and about 50 pages of detailed layouts. I saved the book as I have after and during working over the last 5 weeks and then started adding captions on the front page. Then I hit save again, and after saving I turned to the next page to find that only two of the six pictures were visible, then upon checking the rest of the book I found that 90% of the images had disappeared. Gone, saved, forever from the layout....5 weeks of evenings given up wasted.

Needless to say, I won't be investing time in Cewe Photoworld again.
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yeah, yeah, I know...I'm lazy.

On a positive note, I've downloaded the Loxley Designer software adn hoping to make a fresh start on the book. I've had no reply from Cewe yet.
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try blurb . i recently got a book done from them and was over the moon with it. Have to say i have used cewe before as well and had no problems,

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For those who are still using Cewe, this was their reply:


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I've used blurb.com before as well - and was impressed with the results for the low cost. Easy to use free software with loads of templates or you can make your own templates. They seem to have allot of discount rates too (I got 20% off)

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Based on your post I checked out Blurb, liked their software (way easier than trying to get things right in InDesign) and am very pleased with the final result. The price/quality was about right. Thanks for the recommendation.
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I used mypublisher.com for a photobook last year and was very impressed. Quality was good and their software was a breeze to use. They are based in the States but it arrived very quickly - much quicker than their shipping estimate date. I would use them again. I also used photobox for some greeting cards and was impressed with them too.
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Well, since my last post, my Loxley coffee table book has arrived and the difference to Cewe photoworld is like chalk and cheese. The cover is better quality, with thicker hard back material. The quality of prints inside is excellent and they don't oversharpen my pictures. I can now highly recommend them...no looking back.

I can also recommend VistaPrint for christmas cards, or at least, we used them for our wedding thankyou cards. The quality was excellent, with a linen finish which is very classy, and they arrived in three days - everyone's been very impressed, and the price is very reasonable.
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Thanks for the update Andy. I've only heard good things about Loxley but not tried them myself. Are they any/much dearer than the rest?
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Given that coffee table books are very expensive anyway, Loxley are not that much worse than Cewe for price. For smaller items like calendars and cards they are not cheap - hence using Vistaprint
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Vistaprint are very good value for all sorts of things. My only concern is they continually bombard you with "special" offers almost daily once you have used them.
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