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Old 01-02-2005, 12:51   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone ever looked into / completed a photographic course either attendance or distance learning?

I would really like to take my photography to the next step and feel that self teaching from various books is not taking me any further. I've seen many open distance learning advertised that range from 200 to 500 and all promise to take your photogrpahy to the next level! I quite fancy doing something a bit more hands on tho and dont know how much interaction youd get with an e-mail tutor.

Or should I jsut spend the 300 on books and a new lense????
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Old 01-02-2005, 13:13   #2 (permalink)
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You could always give me the 300. I'll put it towards a 300D for myself, or at a stretch a 10D.
I'll take a few weeks to have a play and I'll come and be your personal tutor for 3 weeks.

Sound like a plan?

PS. I get to keep the camera, and you must provide the food.



Serious answer ahoy :

I've been tempted to sway towards some sort of photography course myself, not distance learning, (as books would be just as good IMO), but local courses / evening college courses.
The only problem being, all the local courses are either aimed at beginners (ie. "This is an ON button"), or they are aimed at the conventional / photography and darkroom side of things.
I'd like to take a course which explains more about the art of photography. Which teaches things in the same vein as the rule of thirds, and tips and tricks like when out on a shoot or a walk, keep looking behind you for a possible shot which you would otherwise miss.
 
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I'd like to take a course which explains more about the art of photography. Which teaches things in the same vein as the rule of thirds, and tips and tricks like when out on a shoot or a walk, keep looking behind you for a possible shot which you would otherwise miss.

Ditto - thats the sort of thing I'm after As you say the local college do an introduction to Digital Photography but I think I'll be somewhat bored and wasting 30 for a days knowledge that I already have.

I'm wondering if a local camera club would be worthwhile.


As for your first plan If only I had some food left I'd quite happily let you have my camera in exchange for your expert services but, alas, I'm out of food :P
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I'm wondering if a local camera club would be worthwhile.




Bingo, you hit the nail on the head there, its the only real hands on way to get to the next step apart from being self taught,
local clubs will organise days shooting on specific subjects and teach u the ins and outs of the business, as well as being able to chat to and share pictures,

almost like this place

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I'm wondering if a local camera club would be worthwhile.

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It all depends on the people in the club. If you join one that has people in the know that are willing to share there experiences with you you can't go wrong, but some might not be so willing.


Another way to learn is to go on a one day seminar.
You get hands on experience and get some cracking shots in the process.
Many of the pro's offer these days for around 100.

I have done one of the Andy Rouse ones about 18months ago and it was a great learning experience.

I would definately go again.
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there is a local camera club for me, dont know what they are like though, i may check it out, i would definately benefit from some tuition!
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I'm busy looking for a camera club in my local area who are tolerant to digital !

I went along to one club meeting when I had my old S602 and the older film purists sneered at my technological marvel, I wonder if the 20D will confuse them
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I went once and only once to a camera club many years ago when I was a kid. The experience put me off for life - full of t**ssers with M3s over the shoulder smoking nasty russian fags sneering at me because I had an old pentax.
Check out you local college - most do courses ranging from beginner stuff to fairly advanced. Depends what you're after - go alaong and chat to the tutors and see if they can tailor a package to suit you - most will be fairly amenable to that if you're a 'serious' phot.
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There was a very good free online course that was posted elsewhere a few months ago. It was split down into several lessons and took you from the basics through to fairly advanced stuff. Each stage was written in basic English (not photography terms) so everyone could understand and each lesson added another skill or element on top of the one before. The course set tasks and gave examples of things too. I will do some searching around and see if I can't dig up a link for you all. 8)
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Old 04-02-2005, 16:09   #10 (permalink)
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It wasn't this one was it? (LInk currently not working at the moment, but you may recognise it).

It's one I have in my bookmarks, entitled "Photography Lessons".
 
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I am not sure BOD. I also thought I had it bookmarked but having gone through them all recently none actually brought up the site. One or two were not working but I cant remember the name of it just now.
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This is not the link I was thinking off but it does contain many free short courses that may be of interest.

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In my experience, camera clubs are just inhabited by old men who photograph steam trains, or do "travel photography"... (yawn).. basically, decide what you want to learn. Do you want to learn more technical skills, or do you want to learn how to take better photographs? People confuse the two you see. All the technical skill in the world will not make your photos more interesting or exciting - they may well make them sharper of better exposed, but who really cares about that? Technically, photography ain't rocket science. You want to improve your photography, then look at as many photos as you can.. and I don;t mean rubbish you see in National Geographic or whatever.. look in magazines like Dazed, The Face etc.. look at lighting used, styles.. Go see movies... LOTS of them.. gat ideas.. get inspiration. THAT'S what makes a good image. I'd rather take a really interesting image that's slightly off the ball technically, than a pin sharp, well exposed picture of a steam train, or a boring landscape shot of a hill, some clouds and some moss.

You want to learn photography, then get yourself on a course that delves into the academic side rather than the technical. Learning technical stuff will not really make your pictures any better. SHarper maybe, but will they be any more interesting? I think not. Learning technical stuff is important to an extent, but it shoudl be something you learn in order to allow you to operate your equipment without thinking, so you can concentrate on what's really important - taking images that knock you for six, because they're visually interesting.

No idea how old you are, or what you do, but you want to REALLY learn? Get a job as a photographic assistant to someone interesting, preferably fashion or advertising based. You'll learn more in 1 week than you would in a lifetime of book reading and course attending.

Plus... just shoot... film is cheap, and if you're digital, it's cheaper still. Examine your work... what does it say? Is it interesting? If not, why not?

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Wise words their Pook. 8)

I am always looking at other peoples work for inspiration and ideas. Watching films is a top tip. I watch colleteral the other night and spent most of it admiring the way it was shot and wondering how you can acheive the same with photography.

Photography does change the way you view things. I am for ever looking at even the simplest thing wonder thinking how they could make a good photograph.

I did look into to clubs a few years ago and as Pook said they were full of people i would least want to spend my spare time with.
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I have today found out that Canon run their own courses around the country. If you follow this link it has full details of what, where, when and how much.

If you already own some Canon equipment you can register with Canon Imagine and get a discount plus monthly new letters and information.
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Pukka (as Jamie Oliver would say) .... Thanks Steve theres even 2 in Devon
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Pukka (as Jamie Oliver would say) .... Thanks Steve theres even 2 in Devon
No problem sir, glad to have been some help. I am looking at one or two of the courses also as they hold them in Manchester and several times a year. I may just do one and then decide if its worth taking a second, more advanced one later.
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Excellent find Steve. Just what I have been looking for.

Of particular interest to me is the landmarks and modern architecture of London days.
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I am ready to go to next level and going on a editing workshop in march with david clapp click here
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we had a guy here in Broken Hill offering short courses in photography week end sort of thing

but I had the misfortune of having him as a teacher at TAFE he had done some amazing images and worked in advertising in Melbourne but even though he was skilled he was unable to teach you any thing

I would look up a question in google before asking him in the end so much talent but unable to teach people
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Photography is an art, all you need to know are the basic techniques to press the shutter button and anyone can-do this. Where the art comes in is the question, can you see a picture? Can you compose a picture? If you can't do this it does not matter what sort of a camera or computer you own you will never make a photographer. I know a woman who has a library of photo books and two Canon 5D's and almost every lens that Canon makes up to 600mm, wireless flash, studio equipment,CS6 and the list goes on. The only trouble is she can't take a picture worth while as she does not have the eye to see an image. Learn to see an image, this is best by looking at other peoples images and reading comments that people make about them. It's like being a musician if you don't have an ear for music nobody can teach you to be one.
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A lot of what you say regarding the artistic aspect of Photography is true but I think anyone with enough interest can certainly improve their photographs and learn to "see" the end image to some degree.
I found the camera club I joined very helpful, good workshops and generous senior members who were happy to share their knowledge and techniques for both taking the image and editing as well.
I have also done some one day work shops on things like using flash. We have a dedicated Photographic College here in Adelaide and I hope one day to do some more short courses with them.
Most of the community style courses are too basic.
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Willow, I was in the camera club circuit for about 15 years, most of the people were not helpful as they were jealous that you might become better than them. others were very helpful but there were less of them. Having said that this was the period that digital photography was coming to the fore with Adobe etc. and the old film brigade did not like this at all and that caused division as it was not proper photography, but I think those days are gone now. I am no longer in a club but while a member I learned most from competitions when there was a good judge who gave constructive comments on how the image could have been improved or why it was very good. On the other hand there were rubbish judges who had no idea at all.
A good way for you is to post your pictures here in the critique forum and you will get plenty of good constructive critismm one thing can be said there will be no rude or nasty remarks, so give it a try.

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I think you can learn a lot by looking at others pics - to help you "see". And if your teacher/club whoever is helpful and inspiring that is all you can ask for.
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I have not taken any courses yes but learning from online sources!
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I have not taken any courses yes but learning from online sources!
If you post in the Photo Critique Forum you will get useful constructive comments on your picture. Or ask for comments on the other subjects. But what I have seen of your work you have a very good knowledge already.
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My advice is join a good photography club and besides what somebody has said they are not full of old men! There should be at least one where you live, if not teach yourself and log onto this site if you have any problems why not post a few pics on here for some criticism, and if you have a spare 300 treat yourself to a holiday or join the RPS and do a few of their courses.
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It is best not to rely on one source for your knowledge. I have always read books, used on-line video tutorials but have been a member of a couple of Clubs since 1980. In fact I organise some of the training at my club. We do offer so useful training but attending outings and lectures, entering competitions etc. all help to build experience. Many of the earlier comments about clubs are out of date. In the early 1980's club members did seem a bit secretive and obsessed with equipment but this has long gone. Since the digital age (about 2000 for most clubs) members seem very willing to share any knowledge and no one cares what equipment you use and rarely ask.

I recently attended my first ever course in photography (with four other Club Members and a local professional photographer at his studio). Tomorrow I am visiting the British Wildlife Centre on a Photography day with a few other members so there are plenty of opportunities to develop.
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