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Old 14-07-2008, 17:30   #1 (permalink)
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As a long-time "lurker" who finds this site both entertaining and extremely informative, the time has arrived to actually make a contribution!

I was recently the subject of a fairly uninformed "chat" by a member of our constabulary, who was accompanied by a PCSO. I was left in no doubt that it was considered that the photographs I was attempting to take were illegal (!).

I was on a public street, and whilst pedestrians were in my frame, they were not the prime subject of the photograph - not that it would have been illegal if they were!

I tried to inform the PC/PCSO that I was within my rights to take such a photograph, and further, should I wish to take their photograph, again I would not be committing a crime - that was probably a bad move!!!

This almost backfired on me, as mention was made of no photographs being permitted of police officers; the sanctions in force relating to terrorism; confiscation of equipment etc. I politely asked that they contact their superiors to clarify the matter and I would wait patiently for the (hopefully correct) ruling. After some 10 minutes, amongst some muttered advice to consider my future conduct, I was advised to "be on my way". It was all I could do to stop myself laughing.

I saw no mileage in taking the matter up with the local force (I had noted both the officers' collar numbers), as other than the probable written apology I may receive, I feel that such "hassle" will simply occur again. That is until a colleague mentioned the motion before Parliament over Photography in Public Places. The link URL="http://www.tinyurl.com/4ww64z"/URL] will show whether or not your representative has bothered to vote.

Long-winded first post I know, but if such a motion reduces the degree of unwarranted attention we amateurs receive from the police, it may be worth it.

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Old 14-07-2008, 17:45   #2 (permalink)
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There has recently been a very long, lively thread about just this subject. It contains loads of information and good advice. I had a quick look for it so I could give you the link but was unable to find it in the time I have free at the moment. If no one else points it out to you I will dig it up for you later.
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Old 14-07-2008, 18:08   #3 (permalink)
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Here you go....

http://www.pixalo.com/community/gene...phy-25535.html
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So much for my search technique


Thanks Steve/Silky, perhaps the link to the record of MPs' voting may be of interest to some?

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The longer I live in this country the quicker I want to leave too many do gooders where will it end??
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It's not just here. In NY they tried to ban photography on the subway, and one US town did ban photography in all public places until they were forced to rescind it. The whole world is going mad!
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The Bureau of Freelance Photographers (BFP) has sent the 'Blue Card' (see below) to all its 7,000 UK members

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That's very helpful Dave, thanks.

I can understand that general public members are unsure of the law but it is frankly unforgiveable that those who are paid good money to police our society are not properly conversant with basic laws on the freedom of citizens to go about their lawful lives without let or hindrance.

We need to work together on this so that common sense prevails and our rights as photographers are not further eroded by hysterical and uninformed arguments. It is clearly stupid for a person to complain if you are taking a holiday photo of a public beach where there are hundreds of people but if you are on that beach and see a cute 2 year old attempting to build a sandcastle, common courtesy as well as good sense suggests you should ask the parents if they would mind,

In most cases where I have asked for permission, I have not only received a positive response but have even been thanked for being polite enough to ask! In all cases I offer to send them a copy of the picture if they should want it for their family album and sometimes they say yes and sometimes no.

Conversely, it is absolutely wrong for a photographer to get all bolshy if someone politely asks that their child is not the subject of one of your photos and starts declaring their human rights and things. Courteous and considerate approaches rarely end in conflict.

When it comes to the police, I do think this blue card is very useful simply because a lot of these 'plastic police' (as these support officers are commonly refered to around these parts!) have little or no knowledge of the law. Fair enough for them to say 'I am not sure, I'll need to check' but when they start spouting off about legal activities being illegal, they are behaving in a deplorable manner and are showing themselves unworthy of consideration should they wish to apply for the police proper.

If one says they can confiscate anything other than an illegal item (weapon, alcohol under age or where a bye-law applies, etc) then simply ask them to show you the official form they will give you a copy of.... they haven't got one and thus would be stealing if they took an item from you without your consent!

There IS a middle ground and if we are reasonable we will usually find it

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