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Old 25-11-2006, 14:33   #1 (permalink)

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I Am Probably Asking This In The Wrong Section, And This Will Sound Very Ignorant To Most People On Here, But Here Goes, Where Can I Buy Photoshop Programme, As I Am New To Digital Photography And Also Computers, Which I Am Not Very Good With, Can Anyone Recomend Which Photoshop Programme I Should Use, As I Understand Most People On Here Use Photoshop. Sorry For My Ignorance But I Don't Know Where To Start. Thank You
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Old 25-11-2006, 15:15   #2 (permalink)
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Photoshop comes in two guises. Photoshop CS2 is the flagship and cost around 550.

There is a cut-down version that is suitable for most people - 'Photoshop elements', now in version 5. that means there are some really good deals on the older V4.

You can download any current version from the Adobe website, but you have to (1) pay their price, and (2) you only have access to the on-line manual. Best to check out places like Amazon and get the boxed version. Beware that you can just buy an upgrade if you already have an earlier version, so check that you are not buying an update if the price is a lot cheaper!

Corel Paint Shop Pro, now on V11, is also a very good program that does pretty much everything that Photoshop will do, and has some 'one click' fixes and adjustments and on-screen instructions. I got my copy of PSP 10 from Amazon earlier this year for less than 45. the downside is that there are very few tutorials, and you hace to convert PS ones. That is not too difficult, and I quite like the programme. I would say the contols in the various dialogue boxes are not so intuitive as PS, but the layer management is better than Elements. I found it good value. Angela also uses PSP 10, so maybe she will chip in.

Elements 5 is around 60, I think, and there is often a cashback offer with Adobe software.

I think that in the sub 100 market, Elements 4 or 5 will be just up your street, with PSP X or XI offering a bit more, but with limited support

Whatever you end up with, a couple of decent books will probably be worth it, and there are some good DVD based tutorials about too. Digital Photo mag has a coverdisc with tutorials every month, but the books will go a bit deeper into the various techniques.
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Old 25-11-2006, 17:12   #3 (permalink)
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Re: PHOTOSHOP

Hi Woody,

Welcome.

You could consider having a look at Serif PhotoPlus 11: Serif PhotoPlus 11 Studio Pack - Digital Image Editing Software

If interested, phone the sales number and have a chat. They are always willing to consider a bundle and in that way you will probably obtain the handbooks at a special price for you. British too!

I recently moved up from PhotoPlus 10 to latest Photoplus 11.

Which gives me the idea that they may offer some gratis prizes for our competitions too, if asked?
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The new Adobe Photoshop Elements 5 costs 69 if you adore from adobe but if you are happy to download it from them and burn it onto a CD yourself, it is a tenner cheaper. I think paying a tenner for them to send you the box is a bit pointless UNLESS you haven't got boradband in which case you must get it that way, downloading 432MBs with a dial-up connection will take forever and a day!

I will confess to a bias straight away before I comment on these programs: I did Adobe training courses to learn how to use Photoshop CS and I tutor people on its usage. I am therefore clearly biased so be aware of that from the start.

However, I am also the first to admit that paying 500 for Photoshop CS2 if you only want to do the basic stuff like adjusting colour, sharpness, blurring, etc. The Elements version is actually great not only for the basics but also for some pretty advanced stuff these days. It even comes with the ability to open RAW photos from most DSLRs. Given that it is 1/10th the price of CS2, you can see that you need some pretty convincing reasons to go up to the big one.

Having said that, a lot of people think of Photoshop as a photo editing program and that is to sell it very short. It is actually a highly technical program for graphics design as well as a photographic editing and you can do a heck of a lot more than just make photos look nice! The choice is yours. Bear in mind that Photoshop CS2 is a whole lot cheaper if you have an older version of PS on your system already. The upgrade is about 170 and you can easily buy PS7 on Ebay for 50 so then you can upgrade to the big one far cheaper than buying the full package. Be careful of buying if it does not explicitly state you are getting the original program on CD, not a copied version. Otherwise you'll be in breach of copyright laws and then it is all in your court. I am not commenting on this but of course I recommend upholding the law.

Paint Shop Pro is an excellent program and you will find it highly capable. It can do most, though not all, that CS2 can do though a lot of the extras in CS2 are things you won't probably use anyway. However, I find PS far more intuitive than PSP ONCE you get used to the PS way of doing things. You'll find everything to hand though perhaps not what everything does. It takes time to learn such a huge program so you won't learn it overnight.

Photoplus is fine too but is not a program I would use myself. I may sound a bit like a techno-snob saying this bit at least you'll understand what I mean and you can choose according to your own needs: This program is like a lot of others available in that it hand holds you all the way through. It is very much aimed at the home user and the graphics used are very 'Come on, we're fun, have a go!' type. Most of what it does is pretty automatic. If you want to adjust your horizons, just click on the horizon button, set the marker on one side and on the other and let the program do the rest. What's wrong with that? Nothing at all: it's easy. It does however tend to distort the picture a little and does not make use of highly accurate algorithms for interpolating pixels and things like PS and PSP do. Anyway, it's a simple program to use, has a lot of limitations, is fine for fairly basic adjustments, but don't expect advanced layer masking facilities and so forth.

GIMP is a remarkable program for what it is. It is completely free and is open-sourced which means if anyone has the progamming skills and wants to mess about with it, they can do. It has a lot of facilities that will surprise people and for basic use completely obviates the need to spend money on a photo-editing program. This can do anything that you are likely to need with regards general post-processing: colour, blur, sharpness, cropping, rotating, and all the rest of it. You can get it from http://GIMP - The GNU Image Manipulation Program and I would recommend taking a look there before spending money on something you may not need.

The variety of progs is out there, the biggest tuition availablility is without question Photoshop. Having said that, Digital Photo, a magazine that gives several video tutorials every month does include one or two for PSP now and again. Most though are for PS, either the full package or for Elements.

I hope that gives you some kind of information to feed on and make your decision. If you want to buy something but are not sure what, my recommendation would be for Photoshop Elements 5. If money is not an issue, fine, go and get CS2... though I believe CS3 will be out before Easter.

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Thanks Very Much For Your Indepth Replies, And Much Appreciated Advice.after Reading Your Replies , I Would Not Be Going For Photoshop Cr2 As For One It Is Much Too Advanced For Me , Second The Price, I Could Not Justify Spending That Sort Of Money On Something I Did Not Understand And Would Probably Not Use. Therefore I Will Take Your Advice And Buy Elements 5 , Amazon Are Selling This At The Moment For 55. Thank You Again For Your Help
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