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Old 23-04-2014, 04:03   #1 (permalink)
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Photoshoping Models yes or No

Ok People I am new so I am sorry if I offend any one with this question or you think it is out of place

Today on morning TV a fascinating discussion on Photoshopping models now for me personally I feel they go to far some times and I also feel it gives some people a problem especially young female s who want to look like these girls in fashion magazine

yes most people realize that they are Photoshopped but what about the ones that do not
The average Australian Female is between size 12 and 16 nothing like in the books



should we say no to this what is your opinion ?

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I dont have a problem with it. As you say most people realise its been done. What is more worrying is advertising size zero models where no photoshopping has been done and they make this to be a normal size when they are sticks with a lollypop head........ I once had a model tell me she was a "plus" size when she was a size 10-12....... this is far more concerning than trying to make them look as good as possible like smoothing their wrinkles or getting rid of a bit of cellulite.
None of my model work is showing without Photoshop of come kind. I try not to go OTT but if i think it creates the image im trying to make then yep i will use it as far as i can.
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Re: Photoshoping Models yes or No

Don't really do model shooting but we did get involved in the eldest's fashion degree collections - a bit of a nightmare as all the collections had to be made "sample" sized which is pretty much size 8/10 and most studenty types are 12/14 and larger. We did very little photoshopping of the models (I loathe the 'plastic fantastic' of many images you see where too much is smoothed - what's wrong with a natural look?). She got a First so we obviously didn't totally ruin her work!

So do I think it's OK? I do get irritated by seemingly perfect skin - it just doesn't happen in real life but I suppose I've no major objection, done well. But I can't say I like twiglet kids as fashion mannequins
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yes thank you for your opinions I have a twin Fiona it is a lovely name
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Re: Photoshoping Models yes or No

For me it depends on what the image is going to be used for - and what the sitter wants too. If someone wants me to take some 'proper' portraits I'll certainly do some processing but what I consider to be low level stuff. I will not remove permanent features such as moles or birthmarks, but have no issues in subtle enhancements like widening eyes, whitening teeth, removing temporary blemishes or reducing double chins. It also depends on what look the finished image has to have. If it is a high-end magazine look you will be starting from a sitter probably wearing more make up than 'normal' so the leap to produce that style is not so great.

Personal preference also come into play and in general I don't like heavy processing. I now do much less than I used to and a more natural look is what I aim for. I'm also a bit colour blind which does not help!

I absolutely agree with Fiona in that sizing is a far greater issue.
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Re: Photoshoping Models yes or No

It is worth remembering that the golden era for "enhancing" photographs of people was Hollywood in the 1930's. The photographers part was just to capture the start/celebrity but this was followed by skilled retouching artists who went much further than we would normally go with photoshop.

For myself following studio sessions, I will remove minor blemishes in the skin, sometimes brighten teeth but little else other than normal tonal corrections. For a few cases I will produced a strongly processed image using Portrait Professional which I may give to the model. This is usually just for an amateur model just for fun as they are not paid. I will sometimes exaggerate contrast texture of a well worn male model which can emphasise their character.
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Re: Photoshoping Models yes or No

would just like to make a point,, that under no circumstances would i ever remove a permanent mark unless the model themselves had specifically asked me ti beforehand.. and i would never ask them if they wanted it removed.
My son had alopecia and was in the midst of losing ALL his hair when he gor school photos taken and the " photographer" tried to paint it back in. I can not repeat here the conversation and communications i had with the company. But needless to say i am well aware of how it can undermine confidence etc .
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