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Old 24-04-2011, 07:52   #1 (permalink)
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A question of security

Need to vent. You have probably all had this. Shooting in Paddington Basin London challenged by security guards and had to provide name and address to photograph buildings and a canal!. Walked past Battersea Power Stn, which is surrounded by high fences. Large gate open stood on pavement shot pictures, challenged and told I could shoot from across the road. I was in a public place looking at one of the most photographed buildings in London! Shooting from the O2 site at Canary Wharf (the place that was blown up by the IRA) Challenged can't shot without permission oh and could be a terrorist. All challenges made are polite but by completely misinformed security guards. And why does having a tri-pod make me a professional photographer! and a terrorist! I know we live in a difficult time but has common sense been completely abandoned. I am always challenging and polite and do show my images to provide Security with some confidence. Oh and I have been in security for 32 years so believe me I now have a much better understanding of what it has been like for others in this position. Sorry for the rant, having a senior moment. Regards

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Old 24-04-2011, 08:25   #2 (permalink)
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Re: A question of security

Sadly, this is something we all have to live with now. Since I've retired I no longer have my magic ID that used to see off security people either.
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Re: A question of security

Only a uniformed police officer is entitled to ask you for identification. If anyone else accosts you, they're on the wrong side of a Threatening Behaviour charge. In a case like Russell describes, I'd ring 999 - none of us want to give the Police extra work but it's important that we don't reinforce bad behaviour.
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Straight from the (police 'sic') horses mouth. Couldn't be clearer, shoot away.

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Only a uniformed police officer is entitled to ask you for identification.
They do not ask - I used it to identify myself.
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Straight from the (police 'sic') horses mouth. Couldn't be clearer, shoot away.

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It is not so much the police (although there are some examples of ignorance) - it is the private security that give the most trouble.
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Re: A question of security

Graham.
I still have my go anywhere card but for how long. Hutton and Windsor permitting. I am off to a steam museum today, see how long I can go without upsetting someone lol
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Re: A question of security

i have shot many places where i shouldnt and many places where i am allowed, And i have to say i have only EVER had one confrontation..... and yep that was in a place where i SHOULDNT have been.
maybe its cos im not in London maybe its cos im female ( as all us female togs know we dont get taken as seriously as male togs) who knows, but I do live right next door to one of the few places in Scotland that we are not allowed to photograph, yet it is photographed almost every day with few ( i wont say none) issues arising.
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Re: A question of security

I had a ticket for the Cheltenham Racecourse and looked at the website and noted that Photography was welcomed. Arrived with my kit which was searched by a security guard who said that I must be a professional photographer so was not allowed in without a press pass. I made it clear that I am an amateur and showed him my FIAP (international) card which has my name and photograph and stated that I am a non-commercial photographer in several languages. I continued to insist that I was entitled to enter so the guard called a supervisor who looked at the card but (not surpringly) had never seen one before. He was uncertain so I explained that I am a member of the local camera club which seemed to tip the balance and he let me in. As I had a complementary ticket, I could not have sued the Racecourse had I been barred though could have, if I had paid for the ticket. I did feedback my experience which went to the marketing office which had supplied the ticket. They sent an apology (realising that implications had a paying customer been turned away). This was the Gold Cup meeting so external security sub contractors were used who normally search people entering football grounds and did not realise that the racecourse adopted a more photographer friendly approach.

I also rather cheekily asked if I could have a press pass next time because, it would have been great to have shot from where the press guys were. I was told that possibly something might be arranged at one of the lesser meetings. So there are still places where photographers are welcomed. However, it is important that photographers do use common sense and not try to set up tripods in busy walkways etc.

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It is not so much the police (although there are some examples of ignorance) - it is the private security that give the most trouble.

I agree Dabhand wholeheartedly and that was why I put up the link, to reinforce the fact that if the police have no power to stop you then a private security guard definitely doesn't. The link was to give readers clarity and dismiss any ambiguity. There is the written law and the "I heard from a bloke in our pub that............" pinch of salt type nonsense.
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