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Old 14-12-2007, 19:57   #1 (permalink)
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Rain Cover Help!!

Hey all,

I've just been surfing the net to look for a rain cover which would be suitable for a canon 30d with a 10-22 lens.
Has anybody here tried the Kata rain sleve series or any other types of rain covers?
I've been thinking of getting a Kata E-690 which states on the packaging that its for small slrs (like d70 and 400d ) but does anyone know the dimentions for it or has tried it with a 30d sized body?
They also do a large one but it is much bigger and bulkier and if I could get away carrying the smaller one around with me it could solve a whole lot or rain smudges hassle.

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Old 14-12-2007, 22:45   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Rain Cover Help!!

I've a Rain Cape from Ewa-marine ewa-marine*:*C-AF*

Works very well - I've a shot I'll dig out which I took at the bottom of a very tall waterfall in New Zealand when I got very, very wet! But camera stayed dry!
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Old 14-12-2007, 23:08   #3 (permalink)
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try this Just Limited Camera Protection i have one (admittedly not used much) but does the job for good price
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If you want to keep the money for christmas, you can make one out of a plastic bag, attached to the camera and lens via the lens hood and the eyepiece it does work, honest!
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Old 15-12-2007, 13:03   #5 (permalink)
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If you want to keep the money for christmas, you can make one out of a plastic bag, attached to the camera and lens via the lens hood and the eyepiece it does work, honest!
That used to be my method of choice with my Fuji 602Z - the optional add-on lenses had a tube adapter which, when screwed on, completely enclosed the lens. Stick UV filter on front and poly bag and elastic bands made for a water/dustproof cover. Sadly my dSLR lens rotated and moved so that was never going to work

Down side to all the poly solutions (including my Rain Hood) is that it tends to get very humid inside the container (you'll inevitably get some moisture inside - on hands probably) which isn't good - so you need to keep an eye on that

BTW, I use just a chamois to lay on top of camera/lens in damp/drizzly conditions. It stops drips forming (which are the big no-no), so protects the camera well enough
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Re: Rain Cover Help!!

I've tried some of the cheap polythene covers and they do get very humid. I took one to the time trial champs this year and tried it as it rained all day. Condensation really built up inside, so I took it off and shot from in the car. I'm looking at some of the other options for next year when I get round to doing a search.
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Old 15-12-2007, 17:13   #7 (permalink)
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I've tried some of the cheap polythene covers and they do get very humid. I took one to the time trial champs this year and tried it as it rained all day. Condensation really built up inside, so I took it off and shot from in the car. I'm looking at some of the other options for next year when I get round to doing a search.
The "best" solution I've seen is an old outdoor jacket and make a cover from a sleeve and part of the body. Advantage is that it can breathe (so no condensation) and you can reproof it.

I'll probably try this, using the optical window from my Rain Hood to make it totally waterproof - I'm just waiting 'til I reckon there's really is no more life in an old walking jacket I've got!
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Old 15-12-2007, 17:18   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Rain Cover Help!!

Good idea Mark, I've got an old Drizabone coat in the loft. I'll just have to get the sewing machine out.
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Re: Rain Cover Help!!

I've not actually tried a rain cover of any description, but I bet the condensation issue is lack of ventilation.

Breathable material will obviously help, but maybe also getting a bigger one than you actually need will allow more air movement too.
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I've not actually tried a rain cover of any description, but I bet the condensation issue is lack of ventilation.

Breathable material will obviously help, but maybe also getting a bigger one than you actually need will allow more air movement too.

Good idea to get one bigger then you may need.

I've resorted to using grocery shopping bags when needed in a hurry. It works, but is very messy sometimes.

I also leave my camera, lens, ect. out to air dry in case of moisture when I get home. I don't like to take any chances.
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Re: Rain Cover Help!!

Gah!!!Thanks for the help here guys.
I've been struggling for a few years now using an all weather backpack cover for holding over my camera when it rains but its super impractical (just like using a plastic bag!).
The waterproof jacket sleeve is a great idea in theory but i'm not sure exactly what I'd do with the cut off area that wouldn't bee time consuming or too fiddly (Uh and I don't know how to sew but I could gun glue something if I had 2, Whipspeed you know how to sew, do you know if gluing it would be okay or is this just a bad retarded idea?)

I hadn't even taken into account the condensation problems with plastic/polythene materials used with the ones I've been looking at yet!
Mark the ewa-marine one looks interesting as I havn't heard of it before so I'll have a more in depth look at this in a bit.

Stupot I've looked into these typed of protection but the base of the cover isn't sealable and I was looking for something I could tighten around my tripod shoe like the kata one (it seems to me a combination of the kata types and the insulated ones would be the ideal solution)

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Re: Rain Cover Help!!

I've concocted a selection of clear heavy duty plastic bag 'covers' and haven't had any condensation build up.

Mind you these are open at the bottom and (camera) back as I use them when shooting with a monopod.

They've been big enough to quickly swing between portrait and landscape, something I gather some of these pucker bespoke covers can't do?

And don't breathable fabrics require some sort of hydraulic/pressure/notsureoftheword action to allow smaller (sweat/humidity) droplets to escape?
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Old 17-12-2007, 18:06   #13 (permalink)
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And don't breathable fabrics require some sort of hydraulic/pressure/notsureoftheword action to allow smaller (sweat/humidity) droplets to escape?
Gore-Tex relies on osmosis to dry inside - which is why if you've wet socks inside Gore-Tex boots you can end up wetter! But it depends on being in contact - an old coat/sleeve would have some room around the camera, so not an issue (even if camera was wet!)
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Here are those pics, showing the "view" underneath the Earland Falls. I thought it would be a bit wet and fun - it was horrendous with a gale (generated solely by the falling water), trying to keep balanced walking across the rock-strewn stream!

Actually, despite the lens cover being totally wet, the camera view is much better than the gale-driven water dropped personal view!


The 'falls in their full glory


Unfortunately, because I thought it might be only a few drops of water I didn't do my jacket up properly.......... and got soaked, much to everyone's amusement! Camera survived well inside it's Rain Hood!
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Elle, don't think glue would work, need to get your sewing kit out
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Elle, don't think glue would work, need to get your sewing kit out
As a butcher when it comes to sewing and so an expert with glue gun and wundaweb, I reckon glue gun would work........ providing you never went anywhere hot when the glue would melt!
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Sewing would look prettier though, you could embroider some pretty patterns on it.
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interesting thread,
I know that when snowing you can fill a bag full of breath in no time,,,I just stop breathing for a couple of hours until camera is full of pic's. "just kidding" Would like to get something that works and easy to carry. but hand pumping the wet air out of the bag seems to work OK if the bottom is left open,..I wear glasses and when they turn to fog from inside of the bag,,,wipers maybe,,
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As a butcher when it comes to sewing and so an expert with glue gun and wundaweb, I reckon glue gun would work........ providing you never went anywhere hot when the glue would melt!

Gotta be careful using a glue gun. It will get soft in the heat and just break off in the real cold. I'd sew or use some heavy duty glue other than a glue gun.

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LOL! I save my skillful needlework for emergencies only!

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Gotta be careful using a glue gun. It will get soft in the heat and just break off in the real cold. I'd sew or use some heavy duty glue other than a glue gun.
Actually that glue gun glue is not bad in the cold - it's heat it doesn't like.

Aside from extensive use of a glue gun I also use that transparent silicone sealant that comes in big tubes. It's excellent on smooth(ish) surfaces - never tried it with material but it's flexible (tho' avoid contact with metal as when it 'cures' it gives off acetic acid)
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LOL! I save my skillful needlework for emergencies only!



Actually that glue gun glue is not bad in the cold - it's heat it doesn't like.

Aside from extensive use of a glue gun I also use that transparent silicone sealant that comes in big tubes. It's excellent on smooth(ish) surfaces - never tried it with material but it's flexible (tho' avoid contact with metal as when it 'cures' it gives off acetic acid)

Oops....referring to my cold which gets down to below zero alot and I've had outdoor things I've used glue sticks on just crack.

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I use the Aquatech rain covers which Warehouse Express and Cameras Underwater stock. I have used these in all weathers shooting on the beach (once in a solid 2 hour stint in the pouring rain and a force 5 wind!). These breath pretty well and condensation only becomes a problem if you keep taking a wet hand in and out of the cover.

I bought the last cover on EBay from the States as the dollar rate bought the price right down!

If you are only looking for occasional use then one of the cheaper options I am sure would do, and I did start by using a Tesco carrier bag which was not too bad. For me this had 2 draw backs in that it would flap around in the wind and also it did not look that professional when a potential customer is standing near me watching the surf lesson. Having profession looking kit helps to justify the cost of the photos.

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