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Old 23-09-2007, 19:26   #1 (permalink)
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Rally Shooting Advice.

I might be going to a Rally Show next weekend and could do with some tips please

Camera settings etc......I would prefer to get on coming shots rather than try and pan.

Never been to a rally before so not sure what to expect or where the good vantage points will be although I would imagine the best ones will be well populated.

Finally I will only be taking the one lens so which would be recommended......the 70-200mm or the 300mm I personally would like to go with the 300mm.

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Old 23-09-2007, 20:20   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

Hey my fave motorsport, you say it's a rally show. Is it a stage rally?

If so take a flask of tea and don't take anyone not interested in motor sport unless you like lot's of sentences that start with "What's the point of ..." . Jumps, watersplashes and hairpins will be the best spots and the most popular. If you don't want to try panning then a low angle at a jump, dust flying up or a nice spray of water stops the cars looking too static.

If you are taking one lens then I'd go with the 70-200 you can get pretty close to the action and you'll fill the frame with that. I'm not always a fan but for rallying a skylight or clear filter is a very good idea as they are either dusty or muddy and it flies around. You'll have enough trouble keeping those pretty white lenses clean. Like a lot of things it's about planning try and find out and plan where the best spots will be for a couple of stages and work out you route and parking etc.

E-mail the organisers, they might hook you up with a hi viz and a pass or at worst a plan of the stages with the best spots marked out..

As a matter of interest you do know how easy it is to get an e-mail address with a cool sounding domain don't you? PE@motorsportsnappers.co.uk might elicit a favourable reponse.

Whatever I am sure you'll have a great time.
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Old 23-09-2007, 20:27   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

Cheers Vinny

What sort of shutter speeds should I be looking to at.....although I will be experimenting on the day I guess

Here is a link to the show and there is a map of the course;

The Rally Show at Chatsworth

LOL....I like the email addy.
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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

One really serious piece of advice, based on my first (and last!) attempt at this sort of thing at what used to be the RAC Rally through Dalby Forest sometime in the 1980s.....

Do not, under any circumstances, stand on the outside of a bend, even if there's plenty of space because for some strange reason nobody else is there. Well, not if it's on a gravel road, that is.
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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

Yes Silky I've been reading around the web and there are a few warnings about how dangerous being a spectator can be.

That's why a fancied going with the 300mm so I could stand well back
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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

Rules were more lax in those days, but getting grit-blasted helps you learn fast.
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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

Well if I get my equipment slightly dirty I aint going to be happy
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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

Well it looks like it will be a fun day, more like a super special or Rally Cross so lots of action in front of you. Near head on 1/250 upwards will stop the cars quite well but let dust mud etc still have a feeling of movement. From any significant angle you need to double that to freeze the action.
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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

Thanks again Vinny .

I've been practising through the window at cars travelling at approx 30mph with shutter speeds of 1/500s and the results were pretty pants ......must get some practice in.

So looks like the 70-200 will be the best choice

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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

Not an expert by any means P-E but I may be able to help a little.
Shutter speeds are dependent on what your after, TBH I'd stay at 1/500 or higher. you may get some clues as to where you can or cannot stand via the press office for the event. Marshals are sometimes friendly enough so ask them politely if there is somewhere you wish to go, as long as it's safe I'm sure they will help.
I'd advise you use natural cover such as trees (the bigger the better) and If you intend getting close, get some practice in first so as you know what settings you intend using as the last thing you need to be worrying about when close to cars at speeds of 100mph on the loose stuff or Tmac is changing settings. .
If there is a corner that looks fast maybe you'll get some opposite lock at it's finest to capture, if not, at least the cars will have slowed a little to capture some detail.
I hope this helps, as I said, I'm no expert but have been involved with rallying for a few years and love the sport to bits. Hope you enjoy every last minuet and dont forget Rally GB in sunny Wales, November.
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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

Thanks DB

I was thinking of getting myself on one of the inside corners if possible. I emailed the organisers asking if there was access right around the course suitable for photography.....I got an immediate reply saying 'yes'. So I will have to wait and see if I manage to get to the event

Think I will go with the 70-200 as Vinny says but take a 1.4Telex just in case I need longer.

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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

I guess I'm going to have to have a go at panning so what sort of shutter speeds should I be looking at.......is it a case of experimenting a little?

I've seen anything from 1/125 to 1/15 quoted
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I guess I'm going to have to have a go at panning so what sort of shutter speeds should I be looking at.......is it a case of experimenting a little?

I've seen anything from 1/125 to 1/15 quoted
Definitely trial and error, it depends on the focal length. At 200mm I'd start at 125 once you get the hang of that then slow it down until it gets out of control. Even with the experts there is a high failure rate.
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Re: Rally Shooting Advice.

Thanks Vinny

Looks like I'm in for a good few failures ........best make sure I take plenty of memory cards.
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