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Old 27-10-2012, 05:27   #1 (permalink)
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Redneck Macro Lens?

Are there any good redneck macro lens available for Canon EOS Rebel XS/1000D? As my income is so low for me to buy a good macro lens, I need to make one, or something.... That canon camera is mine now, as I have bought it from my friend. I have since uploaded new albums. Too many pics to post here.... LOL! Can't help it!!!!!
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Old 27-10-2012, 05:28   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Redneck Macro Lens?





The Jack O' Lantern mushrooms were taken with the Nikon Coolpix before I got my hands on the Canon EOS Rebel.
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Old 27-10-2012, 10:02   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Redneck Macro Lens?

Many people get good results by using a Raynox 250 lens that fits in front of your kit lens. Just check that the fitting is available for the lens you have.
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Old 27-10-2012, 11:03   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Redneck Macro Lens?

Alternatively you could get some extension tubes which go between the camera and the lens, just make sure you get full auto ones and then you keep the af and light metering. Aftermarket ones don't cost much here and in the States I should think they are peanuts.

If you can afford it the Tamron 90 macro lens is fantastic and for a macro lens very cheap indeed, it's what I have and the results are awesome.
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Or you could try the lens reversal technique
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Old 28-10-2012, 11:13   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Redneck Macro Lens?

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Or you could try the lens reversal technique
Lens reversal means going fully manual though and I think Firebrand would struggle with it, especially as she likes to crawl into very dark spaces
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Re: Redneck Macro Lens?

if you have a 50mm or similar get a point+shoot and put the 50 (reversed?) over the lens can work quite well

extension tubs though are probably better
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Re: Redneck Macro Lens?

Silver, can you explain more of this, please? I do have a Nikon Coolpix S60 as well, but the quality does not match up to the Canon. But, I am willing to try anything. I was wanting a "redneck" version for my Canon, so I can do more macros with the better quality of the Canon EOS Rebel XS.
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Re: Redneck Macro Lens?

it's really just the same I think but if you put the other lens (don't have to be a 50mm) onto the front of the point+shoots lens perhaps it gives something different to try

is lots of options searching google for 'poor mans macro' or similar A Poor Man’s Guide to Budget Macro Photography
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Re: Redneck Macro Lens?

While reversing the lens can bring extremely detailed results, I'm not so sure that it would be so suitable as a starter for macro. Yes, it is cheap but it has a number of significant disadvantages:
  • it means manual focussing, manual aperture control and... well everything has to be done manual unless you buy the Canon coupler that allows you to operate the lens reversed.
  • apart from the above a reversed lens must be manually set to a wide open aperture in order to focus and then manually set to the aperture required to get the correct exposure, if your lenses do not have manual aperture control you will not be able to adjust the exposure
  • because of all the above if you try and focus at the aperture that you want to expose with (often a very small one like f/22) you will not be able to see very much, if anything to focus on
  • As you can guess with all of the above, you will need extra light and your on camera flash will undoubtedly not be adequate
  • finally it puts lenses at risk from damage and dirt ingress, and thus your camera.
So reversing a lens may look simple but unless you understand what you are up against then it is not always the best direction to take initially.

Another alternative that has been mentioned are extension tubes. You can attach these between your camera and lens, effectively moving the focsussing range closer to the camera - i.e. you can only focus on nearby objects. Tubes also reduce the amount of light arriving at the camera sensor. The more tubes you add the less the light. This is nothing to do with anything in the tubes - they are just tubes, just the math of moving a lens further from the sensor. So again you will probably need to support the use of 'tubes' with extra lighting and your on camera flash may not be enough. The on camera flash will probably cast shadows from the extended lens if working very close to your subject with longer tubes.

Considering the environment that interests you at the moment (tree caves), and your already mentioned disabilities, I think that Dabhand's suggestion is the simplest and safest to start with. It will also have the least impact on exposure compensation (read extra lighting), and ease with which you can view your image before you take the shot. It will not get as close a reversing but it will be a good start.

Macro photography benefits a lot from using external strobes, but be careful if you decide to buy one. The cheapest option would be to buy one second hand, but your camera is very sensitive to the voltage used to discharge the strobe. Older strobes will fry the flash trigger in your camera rendering it useless, so check compatibility carefully before taking this step.
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Re: Redneck Macro Lens?

You've been busy with your new camera.

All above advice is good. Also if you are into tree caves then you need to take into account accessing them with the size of lens etc.

Also when looking at your redneck version - bear in mind the easiest and best are with a macro lens itself. Maybe a used one can be got for a reasonable cost ?

Also if you go for extension tubes make sure they have electrical contacts to all you to retain control over the aperture of the lens. Not all of them do this and ones without force you to shoot wide open which makes the detail in the image restricted to a very fine field of view.
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