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Old 25-09-2013, 04:41   #1 (permalink)
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Looking back over 55 years of taking photos I am truly amazed at the advances in photographic equipment. Remember the "good old days" when you did well to get a 6x8 or 8x10 and 10x12 wow!!!!!!............ Look at that "artistic grain", in truth if you were using 400 asa you got it whether you wanted it or not. In conversation tonight it was suggested this was the reason older togs were reluctant to go over 400 ISO.
So now we can make prints to huge sizes if we wish, indeed a lot of cameras are
far beyond the abilities of their owners, me included..........but still there is room for improvement in some areas. One wonders what photographic gear will be like even 10 years on?
This begs the question in which areas would you like to see improvement?.
Personally I could use a much faster autofocus system, though mine is pretty good as they go. The advertising guys love to show shots of effortless tracking of children at play ect. but you won't see any shots of Snipe that you just flush up as you walk along.
So what are your hopes for future developments? Come on guys if you don't have dreams they can't continue selling "improved" cameras
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I would like a metering system that whatever the orientation could give the sky and land the correct exposure without ND Grads (no more blown white clouds).
Next. a sensor that wont attract dust, and oil specks are automaticaly removed.
Then SLRs with titainium bodies (mutch lighter)
Followed by lenses that have a built in ND fader, and c polariser that can be swithed on and off.
Lastly. to me it would be progress but maybe not to others, No video. No voice recorder. No GPS, No WiFi.
I think the latter is less likely than the others though.
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Old 25-09-2013, 11:57   #3 (permalink)
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Lighter, smaller, faster, longer reach.

Exposure as you see it, non of this exposure comp stuff.

Agree with Charles about the built in filters and dust too.
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I am not too bothered about some potential improvements. For example it would be better to have a sensor with a much higher dynamic range so no need for HDR, Grad filters etc. On the other hand I know how to deal with High Dynamic Range scenes and part of the fun is using this knowledge. If everyone can do everything just by pressing the button we are just down to composition. For me photography has been about the combination of composition (artistic skills) and technical skills.

GPS would be nice and WiFi though I do get by without them. I am happy to have Video though rarely use it and, more controversially, I would be happy to lose JPEG output as I never use it (I do realise that will not happen).

The weight issue is conflicting because I would like lightweight so I can carry the kit but a heavier camera is more stable. I had thought that the dust issue had more or less been resolved. I have had my Canon 5D Mkii for over 3 years and have only recently had to clean the sensor for the first time and I change lenses frequently.

To be honest there is no real drive for me to upgrade my camera as the image quality is excellent and the only improvements I want are an articulated screen and faster focusing (the 5D Mkiii only offers one of those).
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That's about the only thing I would like is an articulated screen. But then on the cameras I have you would have to have live view. It's strange as my first camera 5 meg pix f/1.8 has one. A bridge camera,,and here is where I would like to see faster lenses. I will always have a bridge camera because that's what I use for video. Small easy to point and good video. Cameras that have faster focus, well Have you seen the price of the new lenses canon has with their IQ matched systems. It is like Apple, I consider myself middle class and if I save alittle while I should be able to buy,, not now. So lower prices.
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I'm surprised articulated screens have taken so long to be popular, I love mine. The first digital camera I bought was a Sony F717 in 2000 and it had a moving body so in effect the screen went from 90 to 180 degrees and I used it in much the same way as I do now, for almost ground level shots. It had a f2 Vario Sonnar lens, mind you the asking price then was £600+ (a lot more then than it is now) and err...........5mp
At the time I thought I couldn't get much better and was very happy with it. Would I use it now - certainly.
Would I prefer it now to my modern cameras - no way
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Interesting that some popular features have appeared in the cheaper cameras initially like articulated screens. The Canon 5D Mkii & Mk iii both have live view so why they did not add this to the Mkiii, I have no idea. There have also been a few features introduced to Elements but later added to Photoshop by popular demand. I guess the manufacturers believe that SLR/DSLR owners are very conservative and do no like change for its own sake.
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i'd like mine to say "hey dummy, bracketing is still on" when I've shut the camera off overnight and take it out to shoot something the next day or maybe even hour...
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Yes Lcraft - that and you've still got the timer on you fool too!
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i'd like mine to say "hey dummy, bracketing is still on" when I've shut the camera off overnight and take it out to shoot something the next day or maybe even hour...
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Yes Lcraft - that and you've still got the timer on you fool too!
This only requires a customer reset. If we had this then we could easily reset the camera to our preferences at shutdown or with the combination of buttons. At the moment my experience is that I have only 2 resets - format the card or reset to 'factory settings'. Actually the reset to factory settings does not interfere with the customer settings but does change a few of the other settings. So a third option would be to reset to customer default. I can do this of course by saving my default settings to the card (which I do anyway) and then reloading them at switch on - which is where I need the reminder and not formatting the second card so they are removed However Nikon's mirror lockup and timer are on a switch that does not reset and that, Chris is where I've come unstuck many times.

For improvements - agree with Charles about using Titanium or even Carbon (with the risk of being too brittle). Using weight for stability in my mind is more solving a stability issue rather than designing it out. Heavier weights just cause muscles to spasm and make it more difficult to hold steady. If cameras and lenses were lighter I think this issue would be far less. Mirrors that clap up and down and shutters that have energy once in motion, can all be cast to the bin. The technology exists (e.g. the acceleration/deceleration of hard disk heads could be used to manage mirror clap) but the price to change the production line might be too much. Yet sadly, I think that simple mechanics often work better in harsh conditions than fine electronics however much I would like the latter.

I would like proper DOF markings - maybe similar to Rollei or Hasselblad where an indicator moves with the F/stop. This could be built into an LCD panel on the lens and illuminated along with the other camera panels for night/low light use. (Information repeated in the camera would also be nice). The info comes out in EXIF data so why not in the camera where we need it!! It's only a software solution and if there in no space in the firmware then why not get some space back and send out the whole multilingual language system on a CD so that we can choose the menu we want and how we want to use it.
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I'm satisfied in the main with what I have. I would like to have a higher resolution black and white film available in 5x4 - perhaps something like the discontinued Kodak Technical Pan.

On exposure, I find that the modern spot meters are not sensitive enough for my needs, and I carry a Lunasix meter around to fill this gap. Unfortunately, so far as I know, the current Gossen meters are less sensitive than the old ones - so a reissued Lunasix would be nice.

Finally - a daylight developing tank that would take 5x4 and 5x7 and feature rapid fill and empty, like the Paterson tanks. The CombiPlan tanks are slow fill/empty, and I haven't yet mastered the MOD54 insert for Paterson - but both only handle 5x4 and I find myself wondering about going larger.
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i'd like mine to say "hey dummy, bracketing is still on" when I've shut the camera off overnight and take it out to shoot something the next day or maybe even hour...
Canons already do that. Turn the power off and it cancels the bracketing.
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For the shots I tend to take nowadays, I'd appreciate faster focus, especially in lower light situations. And I suppose better low light capability all around - but that's about it! OK, obviously cheaper but I wanted to remain in the realms of realism!
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For me taking off the annoying bleep that people seem to have on their cameras at christenings and weddings, i just think people know how to turn it off. If its not on there perfect!
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