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Old 22-02-2011, 21:38   #1 (permalink)
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Just wondered whats the best setting to shoot in Jpeg, Raw or Jpeg&Raw

Also if someone could explain Raw as I have no idea what it is apart from a memory card eater.


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Old 22-02-2011, 21:50   #2 (permalink)
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raw is a data file with an imbedded thumbnail so you can see it on the view finder. It contains much more information than an image file
It is designed to be processed just ilke a negative would go to be processed raw allows you to do all the processing on the computer . it is as it says. Raw. with no incamera processing at all.
it does mean that your work flow is longer but it also means that you have much more artistic lisense

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Old 22-02-2011, 22:06   #3 (permalink)
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Thank Fiona

Can you still view the images the same ? Is there something about raw that you cannot print the same as a jpeg.

A extreme beginner like myself, would you recommend raw and start as you mean to go on or jpeg ???


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RAW files will always need some processing before they are usable. Many people are put off using RAW for this reason as the workflow becomes a two stage process, although edited RAW files can be printed or sent in an e-mail from a RAW processing programme. Once you have got your head around it, most people never go back to jpeg unless you need very high speed shooting and are transmitting the files on the fly.

As regards to saving your pictures tiff files are best as they will not deteriorate when you re-save them unlike jpegs. Every time you save a jpeg it looses some information and eventually, if you do it often enough, the image will degrade.

To view RAW (or any) files the Faststone Viewer is excellent and is a free download, although they will ask for a voluntary donation. It can also do some basic editing functions.

As regards to RAW eating memory, memory cards are cheap now. I can remember buying a 128mb (yes - mb!) card for my first digital camera back in 2002 and it cost £90!!!
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Old 23-02-2011, 00:18   #5 (permalink)
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That's a crazy price for a memory card that's so small. I will have a look at that raw software and see if I can get my head around it and start as I mean to go on.

Thanks for the help guys. You will all have to bear with me as I get to grips with things. So I am sure there will be many many more questions.


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biggest thing to remember is to crawl before you can walk, it can get very frustrating when you are starting and you see all these things you want to do but havent got the experience for yet. dont worry it all comes together.
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As an example, my workflow is:
RAW -> TIFF -> JPEG for web display
I've always shot RAW but occasionally shoot RAW+JPEG (usually with my P&S G11) - except my mobile which only shoots JPEG!

RAW is proprietary and non-editable but contains the maximum image/data - may suffer from not being able to be opened by older versions software. Usually relatively efficient in storage terms (but 4 or 5 times more than a JPEG)

TIFF is non-proprietary, editable and can contain the max image/data - very suitable for multiple edits' Relatively inefficient in storage terms (can be multiples of the RAW file depending on useage)

JPEG is non-proprietary, editable but is 'lossy' and so does not contain the max image/data but is very efficient in storage terms - it is not suitable for multiple edits as they can result in artefacts being introduced
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If you buy this months Digital Photo magazine there are pages and a CD of tutorials all about RAW what it is and how to work with it.
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Best advice yet it's a mine field and goes over my head at the minute.


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Thanks Colin. Will keep an eye out for that.


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Put simply Mike, RAW is exactly that, it's the raw image, untouched by the camera's processor so you get exactly what the camera saw without any compression etc. You are then left to process that data using your favourite RAW editor like Photoshop. But if you are totally new to DSLR photography, get used to jpegs first and get comfortable with basic processing like adjusting the light levels, curves, sharpness and saturation. Once you feel comfortable with those, you will be ready to process a RAW image comfortably and then I would say go for RAW every time.

In short, when you can process better than the camera can, use RAW. Trust me, the camera is not that clver at processing, especially in tricky lighting situations. But while you feel the camrea can do a better job than you, maybe best to go for jpg.

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Ta Rob. Got this months mag and very good info on raw.


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