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Old 01-04-2010, 10:11   #1 (permalink)
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Shooting in Raw advice

Im going to give it a go shooting in Raw today, which picture style do i use whats Neutral and Faithful all about do i use one of these thank you
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:31   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Shooting in Raw advice

Not a Canon user, but I'm pretty sure that when you shoot in RAW, none of the picture style settings will have any effect as they are for jpeg files only. Same goes for sharpening, contrast etc. When you shoot RAW you just get an image with no 'enhancements' produced by the camera.
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Ah right thank you i will give it a go then thank you
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Re: Shooting in Raw advice

When upgradeing to the new interface on my camera where styles are present. The book that came with my camera says that if you want to use an editor, use faithful or neutral as the presets are zero and flat looking. It dosen't say anything about raw only being used and styles or availible in the creative modes. I use raw and use faithful and have my ACR setting to open my picturess with the settings I like to start with. I must say they are very close everytime if you have a system down for using your camera and exposures.
When I tried them all out making sure I understood the book correctly, they did work and make a difference.
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Re: Shooting in Raw advice

RAW ignores all the image processing settings on the camera. The reason why it is called 'RAW' is that in effect what you are getting is the raw data from the sensor which can then be post-processed on your computer using the correct software. As stated above the various functions on the camera that relate to image processing only apply when you are shooting in JPEG.

As always there are the two camps, those who swear by RAW and those who are happy to shoot JPEG. I have always shot RAW since I moved to digital SLRs and I am very happy with the ability to post process the images. Then again, I do still have a tendancy to occasionally do something really stupid with the camera settings and the ability to recover a 'money shot' after the fact is invaluable.
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Re: Shooting in Raw advice

Canon software will open anything you set the camera to in raw or jpeg. Adobe on the other hand is supposed to have some kind of beta styles set-up for the newer software files. I'm still in CS3 and don't use canon software. I have made changes to saturation contrast whiteblance in camera settings and they all work with a raw file. Styles are much the same thing as I understood them, just some presets. But I'm only right part of the time and wrong most of the time The settings will leave a marker in the raw file that editors can use but the raw file is just that, what the sensor has recorded.

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Re: Shooting in Raw advice

I should probably note that I don't use the Canon software, I use Adobe Lightroom and Elements so my remarks result from that experience. I do seem to recall playing with the Canon software years ago but I can't really add anything of real value in that vein.
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Re: Shooting in Raw advice

The style does not directly affect Raw images. However, for some recent cameras a lot of the camera settings are included in the Raw file and Canon's DPP software can read this though you can change it in DPP. If you use Adobe software, the full versions of Adobe Raw (CS4, Lightroom 2) allows you to set the camera style. Adobe Raw recognises the Camera and offers appropriate styles. I think it used to offer just two for my EOS 20D but offers the same 6 as in the camera for my EOS 5D2. You might research further on the internet but I did so 12 months ago and the general consensus then appeared to be Camera Standard (equivalent of Canon's standard). I have used this ever since. I have tried experimenting and always come back to standard but it is your choice. I find that neutral and faithful appear low saturation and flat. So no real need to worry about setting the camera for Raw but I still set mine to Standard, it will default to this if I do process with DPP (very rare).

Remember to really benefit from Raw, you do need to use the Raw editor to improve the tonal quality.
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Re: Shooting in Raw advice

Thank you for all the input, ive tried it today and i dont like the editing used the canon software and i found it poor so after converting my photos to jpg i edited a few and liked the so its a no no for me to Raw
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Thank you for all the input, ive tried it today and i dont like the editing used the canon software and i found it poor so after converting my photos to jpg i edited a few and liked the so its a no no for me to Raw
If you have photoshop, ACR- adobe camera raw will open to your camera and you can set the defaults. It is a lot easier then it might sound talking about all the tech stuff. My settings are to my liking so that makes it much more of an interest as I don't change them and set them as the default. If you have never giving raw a good working over I would incourage you to try it. There are more then enough people on this site alone that can get you through any problem.
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If you are shooting RAW and have something like Photoshop or Photoshop Elements, you can add about a stop or stop-and-a-half of exposure to the image when you retouch. There are times in low light situations when you can under expose in order to keep a high shutter speed and minimize subject movement.
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Re: Shooting in Raw advice

When I first used RAW I couldn't see the benefit and so stopped. Then after a few dodgy shots I realised that the earlier shots had been fine to start off with, and went back to RAW - I wouldn't do it any other way now.
I'm with 'Larne' - I can do some really stupid things, and using Raw means that I am more likely to be able to save a 'money' shot, or even turn an average one into a good one (and believe me - I need all the help I can get!).
One proviso - although I have not personally used the program that comes with the camera, I believe that they are not fantastic, so it probably makes more of a difference if you use something like Photoshop or Lightroom to process them.
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i shoot canon and have never used the canon software however i have never heard anyone saying its anything other than good. it may be that you just arent gelling with the software and u could try smoething else. i dont think its fair to wrote of RAW after a one off try out to be honest,
the benefits to shooting raw far out weight the cons......... IMHO anyway
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Re: Shooting in Raw advice

Canon DPP software is very good. However, I do not normally use it because it does not readily fit into my workflow based on Lightroom. If you are not prepared to make global and selective tonal adjustments to an image then you cannot really benefit from Raw.

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