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Old 02-11-2007, 15:12   #1 (permalink)
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Shooting Swimming Advice.

Sheffield are holding the DSE Swimming Championships this weekend so I emailed them to see if I would be able to go down and shoot pool side.......I got an email back saying my name would be added to the media list

So anyone shot Swimming at all? Any advice (shutter speed etc) to shoot at would be good plus I'm undecided which lens to go with (70-200 2.8 or 300 2.8)

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Don't put your 300mm down your Speedo's
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I wouldn't park it there either

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From most impressive shots I've seen from swimming events, I would say the fastest shutter speed possible ..... frozen water droplets
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From most impressive shots I've seen from swimming events, I would say the fastest shutter speed possible ..... frozen water droplets
Yes that's what I'm going for......I reckon I will be close to pool side (hopefully not too close I can't swim) so think the 70-200 will be the best bet.
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..I reckon I will be close to pool side (hopefully not too close I can't swim)
..WHAT !!!!! with that Duncan Goodhew barnet
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Re: Shooting Swimming Advice.

If i was going i would take my 300F2.8 and 70-200 shoot raw and not drop below 1/500 but i would have a go at some slow shutter stuff
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If i was going i would take my 300F2.8 and 70-200 shoot raw and not drop below 1/500 but i would have a go at some slow shutter stuff
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Re: Shooting Swimming Advice.

A professional sports photographer once told me that amateurs are often less successful because:

a. they don't get to the events with good sportsmen/women
b. if they do, they can't get close enough

You seem to have dealt with both of these so you should have a great opportunity. If it were me, I would take the 70-200 f2.8. Best of luck and lets see some pics afterwards!
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Re: Shooting Swimming Advice.

Can't help much as I've never had good results shooting in indoor pools, definitely use Raw as the WB is likely to be tricky. I've found when shooting the swimming at Triathlons you need to watch the swimmer for a couple of seconds and get used to the rythm, then you can get a decent shot when they come up for air.

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Re: Shooting Swimming Advice.

All good advice so far!... I'd take both lenses and decide which to use when you get there and see the size of the pool and exactly where you have access.

When taking shots I'd also try laying down by the waters edge so your as close to the water level as possible and get some close up head on shots with the water moving across their faces as they come up for air, they should be nice and dramatic!

...and make sure you post up some results too
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Re: Shooting Swimming Advice.

LOL Iain......I'm not going to near the water without my rubber ring on (if it still fits )

Well I've managed to attach the 70-200 2.8 on the side of a Lowepro 600AW bag so I'm hopefully going to go with both.

One thing though......what about the humidty/moisture if/when I change lenses
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Look forward to seeing more great pics P-E.
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Re: Shooting Swimming Advice.

All good advice above and I would take both lenses although the 70-200mm will give more flexibility. You need to consider and approach each swimming discipline differently:

Freestyle (front crawl) - for this you will need to be side on to try and get them when breathing and when the arm is coming over the top, this will mean walking with them so be aware of your surroundings as you you don't want to trip over and end up in the pool.

Breast stroke and butterfly - probably the styles with the most photographic opportunities but you will need to be facing the swimmers and low down, you might want to consider one of those camping mattresses to lie on to save getting wet. For butterfly you will definitely need a faster shutter speed due to how fast they are. With breaststroke watch for the areas at the end on each lap just after they make their turn, as they come up for air the first time after the change you should get a decent bow wave.

Backstroke - if possible try a high vantage point looking down on the swimmers, this will probably be when the 300mm comes into it's own, watch out for the start and turns.

You might want to consider some wide angle shots as they are coming of the blocks as well, it could give some interesting images.

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LOL Iain......I'm not going to near the water without my rubber ring on (if it still fits )

Well I've managed to attach the 70-200 2.8 on the side of a Lowepro 600AW bag so I'm hopefully going to go with both.

One thing though......what about the humidty/moisture if/when I change lenses

You could do with 2 bodies so you don't have to change lenses or just nip out of the pool area to change between races, First time i shot MX it was hot and dusty forgot to turn off camera before changing lenses what a mess you should have seen the sensor and pics
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Re: Shooting Swimming Advice.

Well I did it but found it really difficult

Had to use iso 1600 and still couldn't always get a fast shutter speed. My 300mm 2.8L somehow detached itself from the camera body.......luckily I managed to stop it hitting the floor

Did anyone mention how hot it would be idiot here turned up in winter clothing.......I must have lost a stone in weight.

Anyway many thanks for the advice......all excellent as usual
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Well I did it but found it really difficult

Had to use iso 1600 and still couldn't always get a fast shutter speed. My 300mm 2.8L somehow detached itself from the camera body.......luckily I managed to stop it hitting the floor
Woah, close shave, well caught. A dose of chlorinated water is unlikely to do the lens much good.

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Did anyone mention how hot it would be idiot here turned up in winter clothing.......I must have lost a stone in weight.
They set the heating for wet people wearing Speedos, go figure

Anyway, look forward to seeing the shots.

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Woah, close shave, well caught. A dose of chlorinated water is unlikely to do the lens much good.



They set the heating for wet people wearing Speedos, go figure

Anyway, look forward to seeing the shots.

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Yes very close call Dan, I must have caught the release button somehow

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You mean I got to wear speedos next time


Yes, snazzy pink ones Not sure where you're going to keep your 70-200mm zoom though

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Re: Shooting Swimming Advice.

Do you have some pictures to show? I'm trying to find the right lens for indoor gymnastics and was wondedring if the 70-200 2.8 (Nikon) would work.
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There are a few here.

DSE Swimming Championships

I have more on my Flickr account but not sure if I can put a link in here to it
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Thanks, what shutter speed did you end up using most of the time?
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Re: Shooting Swimming Advice.

Well I shot everything @ 2.8 with shutter speeds of anything from 1/50 to 1/1000 sec.

I would say the majority of shots were with a shutter speed of 1/200, 1/250 & 1/320 sec. The sharper shots were when I managed to get a shutter speed of 1/500 sec and above.
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