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Old 12-03-2010, 19:39   #1 (permalink)
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Stacking Question

Folks,
Having looked at the macro section, I see some stunning pictures in which the exponents have used 'stacking'
Please.... could someone enlighten this old fool as to just what focus stacking is.

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Old 12-03-2010, 19:50   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Stacking Question

Been trying this today - take a series of shots of a subject, say a fly, and focus on the nearest part, the antennae, shoot, focus further down the antennae, shoot, focus on the eye, shoot, etc.

So creating a series of focus 'slices' which are then merged (using stacking software) into a final subject within an image which has sharp focus front to back
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Re: Stacking Question

Thanks for the speedy reply.
So, it's special software
OK, I'll Google for that, but do you have a preference ?
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Re: Stacking Question

you can use photoshop too by masking in the areas you want and leaving the best background with out a touch after you stack them. I've done this with most likely bigger focus depth and fewer shots. A very thin and high magnifacation would use more in a stack. Just a thought, I've also looked at the software and found it very expensive.
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Re: Stacking Question

OK, I've learned a few things along the way:

1. Make sure you've no dust 'bunnies' on your sensor. My first attempts were with the 30D which I knew needed a clean - when you see the resulting stack with each dust particle repeated on each frame in a slightly different place you realise that clean is best (or go for the abstract and grainy look!)

2. Start at the distant focus point as that will be the size of the finished frame - if you think about it you're moving the camera and so getting a wider view as you move back towards the frontal focus point - if you see what I mean!

3. Be prepared to make multiple attempts at getting it right - I used JPGs to process until satisfied with settings and then used TIFFs except that.....

4. ...... you need plenty of memory. My 4GBs (OK, 3.7GB as I still run XP) struggled a bit - that is, until I closed down a few running apps

Here ya go, my very first stacked pic - 5 x f/16 @ x1 of a Snowdrop centre (as there aren't any insects! ) - am trying a Stacker called Zerene (vaguely tried and failed with CS4 - will be giving it another go!)

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Re: Stacking Question

Love the Snowdrop.
Thanks for the heads up folks, I'll be giving PS a go as, having looked at the Zerene software, the cost is out of my reach at the moment
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If you want to try some free software. Then Zerene is free as demo, Helicon focus is free for demo.

And....CombineZM is totally free! I used it on the fly in macro forum.

My tip is opposite to Markulous (nice stack Markulous btw ), in that I found starting at front of subject and working forwards is best. I found on previous attempts that starting from back, I did not go forward far enough. Not getting the foreground parts in focus creates out of focus problems that look yuk!

I'd start on something that moves little, a flower or something like a watch could do. Move gradually forward through the shot with a fixed focus and reasonably wide F stop eg F2.8 - F11. Then use the software to stack. I use JPEGs converted at same settings from the RAW file.

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Correction I used CombineZP - CombineZM is the older version
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Thanks for the comments!

Will give CombineZP a whirl! Cheers, Chris!
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There's a really good "how to" on stacking with PS in the supplement that comes with the 13th March issue of Amateur Photographer.
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There's a really good "how to" on stacking with PS in the supplement that comes with the 13th March issue of Amateur Photographer.
Cheers! Will keep an eye out for it!
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