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Old 19-10-2011, 23:53   #1 (permalink)
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This is a bit of a silly question that i didnt really want to ask, but anyway, on my canon eos 450d it has neck straps, like i presume most cameras do and what i was wondering can i buy something that can i could remove and add back on easily because it looks like if i take the current neck strap off i may not be able to get it back on...


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Many years ago I played around with carabiners as a quick release. They are quick and come in different types - spring, screw, lock, unlock etc. Be wary of anything metal or you will rapidly chip the black finish on your camera. HTH.
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Old 20-10-2011, 09:05   #3 (permalink)
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You might find that aftermarket straps have quick release systems.

Camera Strap Professional Non Slip Camera Straps - UPstrap

JJC PRO-Strap Extra Wide Quick Release Camera Neck: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics

Play.com - Buy JJC Quick Release Camera Neck Strap For Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic, Pentax, Samsung, Sony Digital SLR's online at Play.com and read reviews. Free delivery to UK and Europe!

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I use the Black Rapid system (An RS-4) and would never go back to a neck strap!

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That is quite an impressive video Oy

I've always been dubious about using the tripod socket for hanging the camera on a strap partly because all of my tripod sockets have a Manfrotto QR plate on them, and with my camera and the 80-200 f2.8, it is a hefty old lump to hang from a single point.

The video is convincing though......
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I leave my Manfrotto plate on and attach the strap to that. It has no problem with a gripped D700 plus 70-200mm F2.8
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Old 20-10-2011, 20:01   #7 (permalink)
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I leave my Manfrotto plate on and attach the strap to that. It has no problem with a gripped D700 plus 70-200mm F2.8
Very interesting.......

I was considering the Upstrap on the recommendation of a pro, but they are expensive. The big advantage is that you can hang the camera on your shoulder without the strap going over your head so if you are using two cameras they do not interfere with each other, and they will not slip off the shoulder as they grip like limpets according to the bloke who was singing their praises.

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Just checked the Upstrap site and it seems that the prices have come down! I'm sure they were much dearer than the current prices when I last looked.
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Hey - Liam - Black Rapid sell the connectors on their own. They might do the job.

ConnectR-2 » BlackRapid.com
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Bought 2 of these - OH uses one and I use the other for my gripped 7D + Sigma 500mm (as the supplied lens strap was too short and too thin)
3rd Edition Quick Rapid Camera Sling Black Belt Strap | eBay
Cost me a tenner apiece!
Thinking of getting another so I can carry two cameras on those straps (currently use one camera on a neckstrap) - I use them as per photo as then easy to push one camera/lens behind me when not being used
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Look good for the price Mark
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Hi, thanks for all the comments, dabhand i looked at your links and obviously on my budget cheapness is my main target, and i need to be able to take the strap off and on pretty quickly with ease, and one that stuck out to me was one on play.com titled - JJC Quick Release Camera Neck Strap For Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic, Pentax, Samsung, Sony Digital SLR's, how does it release the camera and how does it attach again.


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Looks like there are two small straps that attach to the camera with quick release buckles that attach to the main strap.

My post#9 shows quick release clips that attach to your existing strap. These Black Rapid ones are not cheap, but there must be similar ones on e-bay, or consider the strap that Mark recommended.
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After reading this thread with some interest as I was looking to try a different strap, I was mightily impressed with the video demo of the Black Rapid strap that was posted up by -Oy-. However, now being a pensioner, I thought that the price was a bit steep to just go ahead with buying one as I was a little concerned about trusting my camera to a single attachment point.

The re-assurance from -Oy- and Mark eased my concerns and following the link that Mark posted, the e-bay version at £12 looked like it was worth a punt. In fact, at that price I thought it was worth two punts! I ordered one each for my two main bodies.

So, on the 21st October I placed my order. As with most Hong Kong suppliers, they quoted up up 25 days for delivery. Got a message on the 22nd to say it had been posted, and today, only 7 days after my order, it arrived!

First impressions are good. There is quite a lot of 'spare strap' after changing the length to have the camera resting on my hip, but that is a minor point that will be sorted out by securing the excess to the 'main' strap. There is no clip to keep this excess attached to the 'main' strap, but as it is on the back. it is no bother. After using it in a real shooting environment rather than just in my lounge, I might find that it needs to be lengthened a bit, so this is not bothering me at all.

Like -Oy-, my cameras and my 80-200 have Manfrotto RC2 QR plates permanently attached, but the carrabiner on the Quick rapid strap fits on the RC2 screw toggle OK and has a security screw too. One word of warning is that on two of my RC2 plates the toggle/grip that you grip to tighten or loosen the screw fitted into the sides of the screw head OK, but on the third, the toggle was only just in the holes in the side of the screw and needed a pinch with a pair of pliars to make it secure. The carrabiner clips onto this toggle/grip.

The quality and finish are excellent. The D700 + a Nikkor 24-70 f2.8 does feel lighter and more comfortable than the neck strap and it moves up and down the strap easily without the shoulder pad moving. The padded shoulder strap has a zipped pocket that will take a couple of memory cards.

The strap does come with a mounting plate with a slot for using an alternative strap if required and the mounting screw does have a tripod socket built-in. As I have the RC2 QR plates on my cameras, I'm not using the supplied mounting plate.

The only downside that I can think of is that if you use a shoulder bag you might find that there is a conflict with the camera. Of course, you can use your other shoulder, but if the bag is heavy this might be a pain (literally!) Lengthening the camera strap will probably allow the camera to be positioned more to your back instead of at your hip.
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Hi, dabhand i wanted to inquire about the strap that you bought, i noticed on the ebay picture it fastens to the tripod differentley, it looks like a bit of a big plate thing, is that a problem, also as it is obviously totally different to the RS-4 Strap does it still have the pivotal movement around the arm as shown in the demo video? This is mainly because that is the main great thing about the RS-4.


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Hi Liam. I'm not using the supplied mounting plate as I have Manfrotto RC2 quick release plates permanently attached to both of my main camera bodies and the tripod foot of my 80-200 lens. The carrabiner on the strap attaches to the mounting screws of the RC2 QR plates. However, the supplied mounting plate should not be a problem to use. It has a screw that you use to fit it to the tripod socket on the bottom of your camera, and you can then position the plate however you like. The fitting screw has a tripod socket built-in.

The mounting plate has a hole at one end for the carrabiner and a slot at the other end to accommodate an additional strap if required - for instance, a wrist strap.

The strap performs in an identical way to the Black Rapid one. The strap has a couple of adjustable clips one of which limits where the camera rests at the bottom of the 'loop' and should re-seat the shoulder pad onto your shoulder if it does fall from the shoulder when you are taking a shot. It is called the bumper in the BR video. The other one appears to be superfluous (the BR one does not have this clip) so I've positioned it next to the shoulder pad to keep it out of the way. There is a large metal loop on the carrabiner that runs up and down the strap very easily so when you lift the camera to your eye the shoulder pad stays in place.

Since my review I have realised that when I unpacked it I cut a plastic cable tie from the strap. This is probably what keeps the end of the strap from flapping about, so if you do buy one, don't cut it off. I have had to use a couple of cable ties to hold the end of the strap in place, so put the strap on the camera and adjust it first then see if the cable tie has a purpose before removing it!

If you don't like the idea of using the mounting plate you could buy a screw with a hole/loop/'toggle' attached and clip the carrabiner to that, but the cost of the screw is likely to be the same (or more) as the strap!

FastenR-3 » BlackRapid.com

You must be able to get these cheaper on e-bay!

If you look at the Manfrotto RC2 QR plate that I'm using you will see how -Oy- and I are attaching the straps to the screws

Manfrotto Rectangular Plate with 3/8'' screw - Headplates

In the short amount of time that I've had the strap I have found it to be comfortable, secure and very effective. Snags? None at the moment.
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Hey, Liam - if you don't like the idea of using the Quick rapid mounting plate, I've found these on e-bay

1/4" STRAP Adapter BLACK NON FR-3 FastenR-3 Lowest Profile Connector FOR RAPID | eBay

BLACK NON FR-3 FastenR-3 Lowest Profile Connector RAPID | eBay

This one has the wrong picture, but the item description is correct

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-NON-FR...item2314006c27
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Hi, thanks dabhand and everyone else for all the comments they have been greatly helpful cause i hate the nect strap on my camera its just uncomfortable to me, but i will look into buying that strap and one of those fasteners dabhand, by the looks of it, it should come to about £17 which isnt alot, im just entered into a non proffesional town photography competion, and its a £100 prize, if i was to win i would definitley buy that, and it would be a great confidence boost to.


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All part of the Pixalo experience Liam - glad to be of help. Won't be long before you will be doing the same for others

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Hi, thanks for posting a link to the review it was helpful, i was just wondering if you could add a picture showing how it goes on the body or something, like is it exactly the same as the one -Oy- showed?

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I'm not attaching it with the supplied attachment bracket Liam, so no point in giving you a picture. If you look at the pictures on the e-bay seller's page that Mark posted, the second one of the block of 7 (showing the guy in the red shirt) and hover your cursor over the picture, it alternates between a front and back view. These two shots clearly show the way the bracket is attached to the camera, and the strap to the bracket. There are two other close-up pictures of the bracket showing the strap attachment point and the top view of the screw that fits into the camera body threaded tripod socket.

In the Black Rapid video posted by -Oy-, there is no mounting bracket, just a screw with a hole in the top that screws into the camera body threaded tripod socket for the strap caribineer to go into. This is like the screws that I found on e-bay and linked to.

So the only difference effectively between the Black Rapid and the e-bay Quick Rapid is that the Black Rapid has a screw with a hole that fits into the camera and the Quick Rapid has a bracket that fits onto the camera. The way the straps work is the same. Oh, yes, the Black Rapid will set you back £75 in Warehouse Express and the Quick Rapid is £11.99 inc air mail.
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Hi, thanks dabhand i didnt notice those pictures before stupidly, but i looked at them properley now and fully understand, when you customise it with the screw in the camera its pretty much the same as the strap that -Oy- posted which is good as it equates to about 20 pounds, im just wondering as i saw on one of those pictures there is a hook that connects to the plate that comes with the strap, how do you customise that to make it work with the FastenR - 3 Blackrapid screw that you linked to, in the picture for the screw it doesnt look like a hook of that size on the strap could fit into that?

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Don't be sorry.

You only need the screw with the hole if you don't want to use the supplied mounting plate. It is one or the other - no customising needed.

I think that viewed individually it is not easy to see how big the hole in the screw is, or how thin the carabineer is. If you are considering getting one of these straps I'd just try it as it comes first of all. You might find that you get on OK with the mounting plate and won't need to buy a screw.
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Don't be sorry.

You only need the screw with the hole if you don't want to use the supplied mounting plate. It is one or the other - no customising needed.

I think that viewed individually it is not easy to see how big the hole in the screw is, or how thin the carabineer is. If you are considering getting one of these straps I'd just try it as it comes first of all. You might find that you get on OK with the mounting plate and won't need to buy a screw.
Hi, thanks dabhand, i think ill do that see if i mind the mounting plate, so does your carabineer just fit into the hole perfectley without it effecting the movement of the camera to much, because i still think the screen looks a lot neater and easier to use.


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Hi, thanks dabhand, i think ill do that see if i mind the mounting plate, so does your carabineer just fit into the hole perfectley without it effecting the movement of the camera to much, because i still think the screen looks a lot neater and easier to use.


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I'm not using that screw Liam. If you look at this link, the Manfrotto RC2 QR plate has a completely different type of screw that has a 'D' ring on it.

Manfrotto Rectangular Plate with 3/8'' screw - Headplates

The camera can move a lot with this design. If you want to restrict the camera movement the supplied mounting plate will be the equal the screw with the hole in it.
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I'm not using that screw Liam. If you look at this link, the Manfrotto RC2 QR plate has a completely different type of screw that has a 'D' ring on it.

Manfrotto Rectangular Plate with 3/8'' screw - Headplates

The camera can move a lot with this design. If you want to restrict the camera movement the supplied mounting plate will be the equal the screw with the hole in it.
Hi thanks for all the help dabhand, i think when im come round to buying this i might buy that manfrotto one with the D shaped attachment, it all depends on the competition tomorrow.

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Graham you don't know of any UK stockist of the Upstrap do you?
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Graham you don't know of any UK stockist of the Upstrap do you?
Not off the top of my head Ian. They might be mail order only from the USA or buy when you are over there!
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LOL I've never been further than the Isle Of Wight
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Can't find anyone even on ebay selling the UPstrap in the UK.

So what you reckon import tax etc it will be to ship from the USA?
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