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Old 19-05-2011, 12:16   #1 (permalink)
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Sunrise and white balance ?

I have seen dark, grey and cloudy sunrises all year. Today the rise turned for a moment of golden shining warm colors, very little blue. It was alarming how beautiful it was. My question,,I never use AWB, all I could think of was use AWB.
I am fast at picking a warm or cool colorcast to my pictures but I drove on down the road with out a clue,,thinking I might have just used AWB. What would you do as the sunrise started to turn flat and that wonderful glow was going gone.?
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Old 19-05-2011, 13:08   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Sunrise and white balance ?

Shoot RAW - adjust WB later ?
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Old 19-05-2011, 13:50   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Sunrise and white balance ?

Even if I didn't take all my shots in RAW, I'd still use AWB for a sunrise/set
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Re: Sunrise and white balance ?

I guess the whole question is a little funny, I just never have been a morning picture taker. I felt lost with the light, always more of a soft glowing effect in the morning. I would think AWB would have worked just fine. You just don't plan on gettin broad sided like that. A good wake up call,, Thanks All
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Re: Sunrise and white balance ?

I would certainly have used AWB and Raw. When setting the WB in the Raw Converter you can warm the image further if this enhances the image.

I see very few sunrises but occassionally make an effort when on holiday though this often means getting up a t 5 a.m. but the light can be more interesting than sunset.

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Re: Sunrise and white balance ?

Thanks Dave, there was no beautiful over powering sunrise this morning. just rain again. Rain and floods ,. I didn't have a camera with me anyway so I was a complete loser. Years ago I was by my self making a comehome trip from San Diego to St. Louis thru New Mexico driving south to north, coming up over the mesas to the east was a blocthy patch work clouded sunrise with about ten colors. It had brown, flat Yellow and bright colors over the top of the flat top desert mountains. I think about that drive quite often as one of the lucky views I have ever had of a sunrise. I didn't have a camera then ether. Anyway, knowing my habits if I had grabbed my camera to take a picture it would have been on the kelvin settings and I would have maybe added a little warm to it as I normally have it set at 5200. Low I know but my habits and light when my cameras is actually with me call for it. 5200 is my standard daylight or midday setting. Many custom settings have come out the same so I will just use it. Don't know what else to say but that I had a "Kodak Moment".
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Started using AWB now to in camera, tis a lot less hassle
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Re: Sunrise and white balance ?

Hi, does anyone use colour-checker passport or a 18% grey card for setting custom white balance? I have a lastolight (think that's how you spell it) grey-card and have started to use it as I was getting some strange tones. Now they are slightly cooler. PLus does anyone use monitor calibration such as Spyder3?

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I don't have a grey card. I use a Huey Pantone for my monitor though.
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Hi, does anyone use colour-checker passport or a 18% grey card for setting custom white balance? I have a lastolight (think that's how you spell it) grey-card and have started to use it as I was getting some strange tones. Now they are slightly cooler. PLus does anyone use monitor calibration such as Spyder3?

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Yes, I have a Color Checker Passport which I initially used to "calibrate" my camera. The passport comes with software to do this but it is better to download the DNG Profile editor (free from Adobe Labs) which is more accurate and easy to use. I was able to determine that the "calibrated" profile for my camera is more accurate and Lightroom is set to default to this for my camera.

When taking more critical shots (studio shots, weddings) I also photograph the Color checker and use this to set the White Balance.

I have a Spyder 3 Pro which I use to calibrate my two monitors and, once calibrated they look the same.
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