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Old 26-02-2010, 17:20   #1 (permalink)
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If Canon comes out with a 60D do you think it will have a swivel lcd and or will they discontinue the crop sensor,? And another question, was the 7D just a fluke thrown into the camera war zone, like a chess move.?
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Old 27-02-2010, 16:15   #2 (permalink)
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Don't know x2! But I'm waiting for them to bring out an interchangeable-lens non-DSLR, 'cos I think that's where the future lies.
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I have one on my first digital, a Coolpix 990, as well as on an Olympus E20, Coolpix S10 and Sony R1. I think you could say I'm a fan.
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Old 27-02-2010, 22:07   #4 (permalink)
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Swivel LCD? Think I'd prefer a removeable LCD - or a way of plugging in an additional LCD

If they can continue to improve the crosstalk/noise I don't see why they'd need to drop the crop sensor

The 7D's certainly a marketing creation - throw in something that doesn't quite "fit" the run of models or create too many ripples but sneak in a halfway house. Be interesting to see if there's a future direct model upgrade from it - which I reckon there will be; inevitably nibbling at fullframe sales but satisfying those who don't want/need to go FF and, arguably, much better value

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Only when the LCD quality has improved by several factors (which I'm sure it will do)
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Don't know x2! But I'm waiting for them to bring out an interchangeable-lens non-DSLR, 'cos I think that's where the future lies.
I agree,seems Sony are also heading in that direction .
Swivel LCD?, can be an absolute boon in certain situations; I'm also a fan;only wish Nikon and Sony would include the facility on one of their high end products.
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Swivel LCD? Think I'd prefer a removeable LCD - or a way of plugging in an additional LCD
Zigview do a remote LCD for connecting to most DSLRs with live view that can be mounted and operated from over 10 mtrs distance, also has motion detect shutter operation;costs well under £200.00, I'm seriousely considering buying one.

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Old 27-02-2010, 23:00   #7 (permalink)
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Swivel LCD? Think I'd prefer a removeable LCD - or a way of plugging in an additional LCD

If they can continue to improve the crosstalk/noise I don't see why they'd need to drop the crop sensor

The 7D's certainly a marketing creation - throw in something that doesn't quite "fit" the run of models or create too many ripples but sneak in a halfway house. Be interesting to see if there's a future direct model upgrade from it - which I reckon there will be; inevitably nibbling at fullframe sales but satisfying those who don't want/need to go FF and, arguably, much better value



Only when the LCD quality has improved by several factors (which I'm sure it will do)
Zigview do a remote lcd that can be connected from a distance of over 10 mtr (or less if required) has remote shutter operation and also has motion detect shutter operation; it is compatible with most dslrs with live view and costs well under £200.00.
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Old 28-02-2010, 07:18   #8 (permalink)
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Ah, yes, the Zigview. Kind of written that one off as it's first iteration was a view-through-the-eyepiece camera and screen. But I see the Seculine Zigview S2 Live for Cameras With Live View connects to the video out. What's unclear is how to extend it to the claimed 50-100m - whatever, it would need an extension kit, if only to 5m and I can see how to do that. Looks to be a good device and something I will seriously consider - thanks!
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THE ZIGVIEW S2 IS A GREAT INVENTION, VERY USEFUL IF YOU DO NOT HAVE LIVE VIEW.

I WAS GIVEN A ZIGVIEW, BY A LONG STANDING PIXALO MEMBER, TO WHOM I AM VERY GRATEFUL TO. I USED THE ZIGVIEW WHEN I HAD MY NIKON D200.

I PASSED THE ZIGVIEW ONTO THE PERSON WHO BOUGHT MY D200, AT NO EXTRA COST AS IT WAS VERY KINDLY GIVEN TO ME.

I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE ZIGVIEW S2, AS I WAS CERTAINLY VERY PLEASED WITH IT .
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Theres a swivel lcd (or vari angle as canon call it) on the wifes canon sx10, I think it's a great if you need to use it. You can lay the camera down on the pavement and have the lcd screen facing upwards or any other angle, no more having to be a contortionist trying to peer through the viewfinder at pavement level.
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Swivel LCD? Think I'd prefer a removeable LCD - or a way of plugging in an additional LCD
Zigview do a remote LCD for connecting to most DSLRs with live view that can be mounted and operated from over 10 mtrs distance, also has motion detect shutter operation;costs well under £200.00, I'm seriousely considering buying one.
I have one, and it is great.
Being an old raspberry ripple, I have great difficulty getting down low for the 'in the grass flower shots'.
The Zigview is a boon for that, the camera hanging onto the tripod,upside down, the extension cable allows me to be upright (ish).
It also has loads of other great functions (yet to try them)
One being the ability to fire the camera when there is movement in the scene.
Wild life photography (or the missus rifling you pockets )
Also, one which I am currently setting up (to make a time lapse of a bunch of daffodils opening) is the ability to take either a set number of shots, or just let it run taking shots at your set interval.
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I have one, and it is great.
Being an old raspberry ripple, I have great difficulty getting down low for the 'in the grass flower shots'.
The Zigview is a boon for that, the camera hanging onto the tripod,upside down, the extension cable allows me to be upright (ish).
It also has loads of other great functions (yet to try them)
One being the ability to fire the camera when there is movement in the scene.
Wild life photography (or the missus rifling you pockets )
Also, one which I am currently setting up (to make a time lapse of a bunch of daffodils opening) is the ability to take either a set number of shots, or just let it run taking shots at your set interval.
Is that the S2 live, if so what is the screen rolution like, apparently the eye piece versions are pretty hopeless!
I'n in the same boat,physically,and I'm considering buying the S2 live , any comments on its performance would be very welcome.
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Is that the S2 live, if so what is the screen rolution like, apparently the eye piece versions are pretty hopeless!
I'n in the same boat,physically,and I'm considering buying the S2 live , any comments on its performance would be very welcome.
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I have a 400D, no live view, so my Zig is the S2 eyepiece type.
As for screen resolution, not very high but adequate to see if you are in focus or not and for framing a shot.
Biggest complaint from me is that it is a very flimsy (delicate) article, especially the connections between the screen (and battery holder) and the video part.
Always a worry when fitting the extension cable to it.
Not built to high engineering standard, and for the price, I feel it is poorly engineered.
But, it does the job.
I would love to have a live view camera with swiveling screen, but not a hope for me.
Never mind I still enjoy what I have, and lets be honest, it is not the camera that takes the picture is it, it is the head looking through the viewfinder.
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LCD displays are no good to me unless they adopt a Dioptre adjustment screen which gives the optical viewfinder its attraction to me. I can just about use the LCD screen without glasses for composing the shot only.
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I have a 400D, no live view, so my Zig is the S2 eyepiece type.
As for screen resolution, not very high but adequate to see if you are in focus or not and for framing a shot.
Biggest complaint from me is that it is a very flimsy (delicate) article, especially the connections between the screen (and battery holder) and the video part.
Always a worry when fitting the extension cable to it.
Not built to high engineering standard, and for the price, I feel it is poorly engineered.
But, it does the job.
I would love to have a live view camera with swiveling screen, but not a hope for me.
Never mind I still enjoy what I have, and lets be honest, it is not the camera that takes the picture is it, it is the head looking through the viewfinder.
Thanks for that,Richard. The Sony system is excellent,the only system that really works in my opinion.
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Theres a swivel lcd (or vari angle as canon call it) on the wifes canon sx10, I think it's a great if you need to use it. You can lay the camera down on the pavement and have the lcd screen facing upwards or any other angle, no more having to be a contortionist trying to peer through the viewfinder at pavement level.
Ahh yeah that would be good.

I have one on my old fuji S9500 I just bought but not tried it yet and never thought it would be any use until I read that

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I have one on my Sony and it can be very useful BUT get the camera close to the floor look at the screen and in bright sunlight it's still very difficult to see the image clearly. Even thought of carrying a cloth around with me to cover it, just as they had to do with plate cameras.
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I have one on my Sony and it can be very useful BUT get the camera close to the floor look at the screen and in bright sunlight it's still very difficult to see the image clearly. Even thought of carrying a cloth around with me to cover it, just as they had to do with plate cameras.

I saw a pop up cover like a hood for a LCD screen on ebay it was only a few pounds would that help ?
 
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I saw a pop up cover like a hood for a LCD screen on ebay it was only a few pounds would that help ?
I have tried two of these one was a "Belkin" type popup /fold down screens and quite frankly there were'nt much good.

I'm waiting for all camera lcd screens to be equiped with the new generation lcd's which actually have the ability to show up more brightly as the sun shines more brightly.
I have one of these on my golf GPS range finder its superb.
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Don't think it would be much good when the screen is parallel to the sky
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