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Old 25-11-2007, 08:06   #1 (permalink)
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Hi

I am a beginner and currently use elements 4 for cataloging, albeit badly . I am currently tempted to get lightroom as I'm starting to use raw, and understand that it will provide all that in need in one. (I have access to CS2 if needed for extra editing).

However I'm confused about how big a job it would be to transfer my catalogue over. Will I have to re catalogue everything from scratch?

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Old 25-11-2007, 09:46   #2 (permalink)
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Re: transfering albums eg from elements to lightroom

I've got LR, but am not yet really up to speed with all of its capabilities. However, it is not an all in one and you will still need CS2 for some things.

You can import stuff into LR, and you can set up different indexing criteria in advance to apply to anything imported, so it ought to be able to do what you want in this respect.

I'd recommend getting a good book and getting to grips with how it works before you actually start using it. Martin Evening's book is good, but I know there are others around too.

Other members are using LR so they will be able to add their thought too. If you don't want to wait for their replies, search Lightroom and you will find some threads on the subject.
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Re: transfering albums eg from elements to lightroom

As Graham says, Lightroom is not an all-in-one application so you will still need your favourite image editor for some things.

The first thing to decide is whether you want to carry on using the folder/directory structure as your index. If so, there is no need for LR and indeed LR may get in the way. One of LR's main features is the Library - a database which allows you to index, sort and display files based on keywords, tags etc which you associate with each file. (This is known as Digital Asset Management or DAM.) The files themselves could, if you wanted, all be in one directory, but LR would display what you chose based on the keyword search.

However, this does mean that you have to go through your files to input the relevant keywords. You can do this in batches if several files have the same subject, but even so it will take a while. Having done this, the data cannot be read by other DAM software, so you are tied to LR.

It's really your call, depending on what you need for indexing etc. If you can live with the directory structure as a simple database, that will save a lot of work and is also portable between different applications and operating systems.
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Re: transfering albums eg from elements to lightroom

Do you mean live with the folder system within windows eg "my pictures"?

I am currently using elements 4 catalogue and have applied tags, made collections etc, but obviously I also still have "my pictures" as the actual home of the photos.

What I want to know is can I transfer my current catalogue from elements 4 to lightroom or do I have to satert agin. I suspect it is the latter but I don't actually know.
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Re: transfering albums eg from elements to lightroom

This is from the LR help file...

Lightroom detects if your computer has a Photoshop Elements or Photoshop Album 2.0 catalog, and can import photos and data from the catalogs. This feature is not available on Mac OS.

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Re: transfering albums eg from elements to lightroom

Fab! thanks for your help. i think it is sounding very attractive if it is capable of that.
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Re: transfering albums eg from elements to lightroom

Another option is tu upgrade to CS3 and you get
ACR (Adobe Camera Raw 4.3) and you get
Adobe Bridge and oviuosly you get
Photoshop CS3
for less than the price of Adobe Lightroom.

You can use Adobe Bridge to catalogue your pictures

Adobe Lightroom costs $299.00 us dlls.

Upgrade from CS2 to CS3 costs $199.00 us dlls.


just something to think about ....
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Re: transfering albums eg from elements to lightroom

Ruth, J sotelo makes a good point. If you only had Elements, then buying Lightroom might be a good option. However, as you already have CS2, you could upgrade to CS3. The very comprehensive RAW processing in CS3 and Lightroom are the same and the Bridge is an easy and logical way of cataloging. I find the Bridge in CS3 very easy to use and user friendly. Prior to this I used software called Cumulus 2 to catalogue but, of course, this cannot be imported to Adobe. If you are not into professional Photography, Lightroom may be overkill for you but I have not used it myself.

I have tried playing with the catalogue in Elements 5 and I found it was much more difficult to use than the Bridge. If you moved files in Windows outside of My Pictures, Elements lost sight of the files. The Bridge has no such problems and you can do anything file wise that you could do in Windows Explorer. Because I had to start again, my files are only catalogued from May 2007. One day I might gp back and catalogue the old stuff. If you can import into Lightroom or the Bridge then that is very attractive. If you do not receive confirmation that you can import from Elements to the Bridge, I could try it out for you because I have CS, CS3, Elements 3 and Elements 5 on my computer.
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