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Old 17-11-2011, 17:28   #1 (permalink)
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Tudor Film

Am interested in buying some 35mm film. It is not so easy to find in some retail outlets, and I thought it good to get a bulk shipment. Do any of my friends in the UK have an opinion on 35mm Colour Print Film from:

Tudor Photographic Group

Not being from the UK, and this not being commonly available in both the UK & US markets, it would be helpful to get your opinion.

ALSO, as a more general question, when storing 35mm Print Film, is it good or best to REFRIGERATE or FREEZE the package and contents? Is keeping film in a cool, dry place better? What TEMPERATURE is consider to be optimum?
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Old 17-11-2011, 17:40   #2 (permalink)
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I remember Tudor as a processing company who would send you a new Tudor film when you sent a film of any make in for processing and printing. It is now some considerable time since I last heard of this company, so assumed they had gone out of business.

I believe that their film was made in their name by another company and was intended for 'Joe Average' rather than the enthusiast market.

Long term film storage is best done in low temperatures, but not sure if actually freezing the film would be better than just refrigerating. Plenty of time is required to bring the film up to ambient temperatures otherwise there could be issues with condensation.
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Re: Tudor Film

I USED KODAK PROFESSIONAL FILM, YEARS AGO, I ALWAYS KEPT IN THE FRIDGE.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF FREEZING FILM, I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY DAMAGE IT.
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Re: Tudor Film

Not heard of them myself.

I got my last batch of slide film from 7dayshop (Channel Islands) - and before that a large bulk roll from New York (B&H or whatever they are called).

I'd get mine from 7dayshop if bulk buying personally - at least till april to save on tax.
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Think it's an age thing Chris as I also remember Tudor but it was a long time ago
Used to put bulk supplies (Ilford FP3) in the fridge but never in a freezer
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Re: Tudor Film

THANKS, Graham, Woody, Chris, and Jake. Such great responses, and such good help!

The FREEZING idea was not something I had heard of before, but wanted a knowledgeable reply to the the various possibilities. I certainly understand how that could damage the film or the coating.

A good suggestion about letting the film warm before allowing it to collect condensation! Don't want to cause problems.

Am currently looking for those companies you mentioned, Chris. The Tudor thing was because of some film available on eBay™. If I get a good enough price buying BULK, I may offset the cost by selling some there!
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The Tudor thing was because of some film available on eBay™. If I get a good enough price buying BULK, I may offset the cost by selling some there!
If I am right about Tudor going out of business, the film might be over 20 years old now, so unless it has been stored well - or even if it has been stored well - it might be past its best.
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If I am right about Tudor going out of business, the film might be over 20 years old now, so unless it has been stored well - or even if it has been stored well - it might be past its best.
Thanks for the "heads-up," but that auction (for 12 rolls) said it was to be sold by 2014. I cannot remember the exact month right now, but that is somewhere between 1 & 2 years from now.

How long would this type of film last with good storage? The guy said his Tudor film was stored in his cool shop.

Have looked, and found the two sources ChrisA mentioned. I'll see what kind of deals they have. it seems anything less than $3/roll (£1.90) is better than the good deals on eBay™. That would have to include the delivery cost.

Again, your help has saved me a lot of searching, and much uncertainty! THANKS.
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Re: Tudor Film

Concensus seems to be that it's very beneficial to freeze (makes sense as that'll maximise the slowing of chemical processes) - but seal in an airtight bag before, during and until thoroughly defrosted

Kodak says to warm up a 135 roll for 1.5 hours after taking it out of a freezer. For a 120 roll, it's just 1 hour. It must be warm enough when you remove the vapor barrier that water won't condense on it.

What freezing doesn't stop is that the film is constantly being exposed by cosmic rays. Not relevant on ISO 25 speed film, but quite relevant on ISO 400 film! There's no way you can get enough lead to stop that...

I have a freezer just for this - specifically the low-speed films like APX-25, Agfapan 25 and Technical Pan freeze very well. You can keep it for 2 or 3 decades. In my experience it does not work that well for the very high speed films like Delta 1600 or TMAX-3200. The 400 ASA films like Tri-X and HP5 should be ok in the freezer for one decade, but not longer.
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Re: Tudor Film

I remember Tudor, sure I have some prints from them somewhere, they are still alive and well Tudor Photography

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They have kept a somewhat low profile. I'm surprised that they have not got their name out there as there are not so many companies doing film and paper these days. Most people will associate Agfa, Ilford and Fuji with film and paper, so I'm surprised to find that they are still going.
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I tried Tudor about 20-30 years ago I did not think much of it, freezing film cant be a good thing keeping it in a fridge is better or even in a cool cupboard I dont think Tudor film was ever a pro film, the last film I used was Fuji apart from the stuff that was given to me to try out, If I was you I would stick to the regular brands.
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I would not pay too much as a 20 year old film will look poor against the latest films from Kodak and Fuji. If you shop around it's possible to get a quality modern film for between £3 and £5.

Happy shopping

However if you just want to run off some rolls for practice, go for it.
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