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Old 01-04-2017, 12:17   #1 (permalink)
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What program image resizing ?

I am very confused in the different methods of resizing images, I mostly use Photoshop and all of the images I reduce in size, but with the different filters available when resizing I don't know which is the best for me.
I have also used FastStone image viewer, which has even more options available.

What method do you use?


Please see screen shot below of FastStone image resizer.



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I am very confused in the different methods of resizing images, I mostly use Photoshop and all of the images I reduce in size, but with the different filters available when resizing I don't know which is the best for me.
I have also used FastStone image viewer, which has even more options available.

What method do you use?


Please see screen shot below of FastStone image resizer.





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Re: What program image resizing ?

Hi Oxo

This is an interesting point. For years I've been using PS for resizing and usually pick the 'best for reducing/sharper' option as I'm downsizing. But recently a PS/LR guru Ken Payne said at our camera club that he uses the smoother option, in PS labelled 'best for enlargements'.

So I've tried this and in all honesty, i've not really noticed any difference. This might well be due to my old eyes though.

Why not try both methods on the same image and see if you can spot any difference? The results might well be influenced by the content of the image. A picture of (say) a garden might well react differently to a picture of a building or something mechanical with sharper lines/content.

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Re: What program image resizing ?

Oxo, To downsize an image to post here in CS6 I go to Save for web > change the pixel size to 1024 or 800 on the long side JPEG high about 60. CS changes it to srgb. and save in a folder I call "For e-mail" that way I can put it straight into Pixalo.
To make larger image size say A3+ I go to "Image size " . > Change the size say 16" long side and make sure the pixels per inch are changed to 300 by ticking the resample box. If reads say 150 PPI. increase by about 10% each time click OK and repeat until you get to 300 ppi. Keep setting bicubic smother best for enlargements. I have just done an 16"x12" take a long time ago on a Fuji 6900 camera which was only 3mp and the camera made it up to 6mp. I will be posting here soon. By increasing the ppi a little at a time gives a smoother better result than one large jump. Hope this helps.
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Re: What program image resizing ?

Hi Graham.

I was using Photoshop's Bicubic sharper ( reduction) but have recently changed to Bicubic (smooth gradients) and find it makes a more pleasing image, but like yourself, I tried the Bicubic smoother (enlargements) but could not see any difference.

It will be interesting to see what method other member's use.


But looking at the reduction facility in FastStone in my first posting, there are many more options available there, and I would love to know what their purpose is.
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Oxo, To downsize an image to post here in CS6 I go to Save for web > change the pixel size to 1024 or 800 on the long side JPEG high about 60. CS changes it to srgb. and save in a folder I call "For e-mail" that way I can put it straight into Pixalo.
To make larger image size say A3+ I go to "Image size " . > Change the size say 16" long side and make sure the pixels per inch are changed to 300 by ticking the resample box. If reads say 150 PPI. increase by about 10% each time click OK and repeat until you get to 300 ppi. Keep setting bicubic smother best for enlargements. I have just done an 16"x12" take a long time ago on a Fuji 6900 camera which was only 3mp and the camera made it up to 6mp. I will be posting here soon. By increasing the ppi a little at a time gives a smoother better result than one large jump. Hope this helps.
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Many thanks, Colin, that's a very interest post and I will certainly give it a try, my main concern is when I downsize an image, is the massive reduction in image quality you get, so I am looking to see if there are any better methods to the ones I am using now, thank again.
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Re: What program image resizing ?

Oxo, Have a study at my Malta fisherman and that is exactly it is the way it was done.
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Re: What program image resizing ?

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But looking at the reduction facility in FastStone in my first posting, there are many more options available there, and I would love to know what their purpose is.
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Thanks, Graham, I will do that.
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Oxo, Have a study at my Malta fisherman and that is exactly it is the way it was done.
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Hi Colin, I have just been looking at some old posts on Pixalo and came across this that was posted some time ago and thought that you may be interested.


http://www.pixalo.com/community/phot...oach-3621.html
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I manage all of my images in Lightroom and thus export everything from Lightroom. sharpen for screen.. For pixalo I have a preset that I just click on..
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Thanks for the information Lcraft.
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Re: What program image resizing ?

For reducing for web I use Lightroom Export but for increasing (and occasionally reducing) I have a couple of actions set up in Photoshop for 10% increments. To enlarge I just click on the action repeatively until the required size is reached.
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Many thanks for the information Fangman, I shall have to look into this action mode, I must admit when I started this thread I was hoping there was a program out there that reduced or enlarged a file with a less reduction of image quality compared to the program I am using at the moment, but I now realise that it does not exist!
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For those who use Raw format in ACR, you can choose sensor size before opening or saving. I have blended different cameras and aligned layer stacks and notice no difference between enlargement or downsizing. I would open from your Raw developer as a Jpeg to as close to the size you need. Like Loyd dose. I use Smoother as I have always believed the difference between 8bit and 16bit when downsizing to many times will cause skys and mass close colors to look layered because you have rendered and tossed out of the picture information by over processing your picture. Some sharpening programs have settings for which blur you would like to use and amount. I always believed it was to rid halos and morai from appearing all over your reduced size picture. I follow the rule of adding a dab of sharpening and color noise reduction, then finish for screen viewing with a final sharpeing. Then copy that if I go to print with another light print. If I go to save for web before a print, I sharpen with a light smart sharpen after the size reduction and change to Jpeg. I never save after web is done and say no to keep my finished final. Nothing against Fangman, their is a big differece between film and digital and many things have been learned sense 2 megapixel cameras so I could be wrong and pay no attention to this advice. I think I got off topic kinda.
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For those who use Raw format in ACR, you can choose sensor size before opening or saving. I have blended different cameras and aligned layer stacks and notice no difference between enlargement or downsizing. I would open from your Raw developer as a Jpeg to as close to the size you need. Like Loyd dose. I use Smoother as I have always believed the difference between 8bit and 16bit when downsizing to many times will cause skys and mass close colors to look layered because you have rendered and tossed out of the picture information by over processing your picture. Some sharpening programs have settings for which blur you would like to use and amount. I always believed it was to rid halos and morai from appearing all over your reduced size picture. I follow the rule of adding a dab of sharpening and color noise reduction, then finish for screen viewing with a final sharpeing. Then copy that if I go to print with another light print. If I go to save for web before a print, I sharpen with a light smart sharpen after the size reduction and change to Jpeg. I never save after web is done and say no to keep my finished final. Nothing against Fangman, their is a big differece between film and digital and many things have been learned sense 2 megapixel cameras so I could be wrong and pay no attention to this advice. I think I got off topic kinda.
Thank for your answer Boofers.
I also when reducing an image ( I never increase) use like yourself the smoother method and them give just a little sharpening to the image.
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you can resize your images in software like adobe photoshop, Lightroom and there are also many easy to do tools available online with the help of which we can resize images easily.
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you can resize your images in software like adobe photoshop, Lightroom and there are also many easy to do tools available online with the help of which we can resize images easily.
Thanks for your reply, I use Photoshop at the moment but wondered if there were any better programs out there that the members recommended.
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